My interest in the Kodak Six-16 and related folders is mainly in their potential for
use as homebrew postcard panoramic cameras. You can also
find sources for #116 film, usually film slit and respooled with paper backing in a darkroom.
I think it is easier to use a 120 rollfilm film adapter in
place of much more expensive respooled film. See the tip by Claudia Smith on using nickels
(U.S. five cent coins) as film adapters below. But these cameras are so cheap (often $20-30)
that it is hard to not have fun puttering with them. And as with the original owners, you
don't need an enlarger to make postcard sized contact prints.
This is one of the most attractive cameras ever made by Kodak. Lens is 128mm/f:6.3 Kodak Anastigmat mounted in Kodak Dakar No.1 Shutter.
From: [email protected] (MSAWDEY)
Subject: Re: 616 camera be used with modern film
Date: 18 May 1998
>The question is, >can this camera be modified for use with 120 roll-film? Or, does some >iconoclastic nut still produce 616 film?
The 120 conversion is probably asking for trouble, since the film rails and
everything is going to be about 3/8 inch too wide for the 120. However, Film
for Classics (on the web) still produces 616 and just about every other oldie
size. The saving grace, apparently, is that 116 and 616 use what is
essentially
70mm film, so at least a raw stock is available to spool. Have fun--it's a
nice-sized format.
From: [email protected] (Jim Richey)
Subject: Re: 616 camera be used with modern film
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998
I just converted an Agfa Readyset Royal No. 1A from 616 to 120.
Replaced the lens with a 90mm f/6.8 Optar. The 2 1/4 x 4 1/4 wide
field photos look fantastic. By cropping an addition 1/8 inch from the
vertical side (2 1/8 x 4 1/4) you can get the same 1:2 aspect ratio as
the 6x12 panoramic format.
Eugene Goffredo [email protected] wrote:
>Hi!, > >I just came into possesion of a Kodak Junior Six-16 folding camera. It >is in real nice shape and the shutter seems to work. The question is, >can this camera be modified for use with 120 roll-film? Or, does some >is in real nice shape and the shutter seems to work. The question is, >can this camera be modified for use with 120 roll-film? Or, does some >iconoclastic nut still produce 616 film? It would be cool to use it this >summer!!! > >Eugene in New Jersey. > >Yashica FR-1. Toyo 45c, and Fiat owner
Jim Richey
[email protected]
http://snoopy.cmagic.com
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From: [email protected] (Eric Mims)
[1] Adapting a Kodak Brownie
Date: Wed Jun 24 1998
I have successfully (or so I say) adapted a Kodak Brownie Target six-16
to use
120 film. I snipped some old 616 spools and jam them in to the 120
spools so
it fits and stays...I haven't tested it yet, the only thing will be knowing
how far to crank so the pictures don't overlap. Has anyone done this? I
purposely ruined a 120 roll today and stretched it and attempted to mark it
out (even allowed for space between negs)...I was just basically
wondering if
anyone else has done anything like this with much luck. The image size would
be 2 1/4 by 4 1/4...not bad......
~~Eric
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From: "David Foy" nomail@this_address.please
[3] film flatness (was Re: Adapting a Kodak Brownie)
Date: Thu Jun 25 1998
You might consider using a thin sheet of metal or plastic to make a mask for
the film plane. Just cut out a rectangle the size of the image you're going
to get. It would effectively sandwich the film between itself and the camera
back/pressure plate.
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Eric Mims wrote
>Tony Wong wrote: > >> I am not sure if you mean you modified the 120 spools to fit into the >> 616 >> camera or if you modified the camera to accept the 120 spools. But I >> prefer to not modify the camera itself and buy another 616 spool then >> rewind my 120 film onto the old spool. This seems to work for me. I >> have >> not tried this on 616 spools but I have successfully done this for a >> Kodak >> Duraflex and Brownie Hawkeye cameras which takes 620 film. I used >> Ilford >> FP4 film which seems to have many exposure marks on the paper backing >> which >> lines up with the exposure hole in the back of my cameras nicely. >> >> The only trick after that is to figure out what to use for an exposure >> >> meter and how to set it given you have no idea what the f-stop or >> shutter >> speed is. >> >> I also have a Brownie Junior Six-20 but have never tried to use it. >> >> Have fun, >> >> Tony Wong >> > > I have not modified the actual camera at all. I just took two old >spools and cut them so as to make 'extenders' to place on both sides of >a 120 roll. The film runs along one side of the back so that helps to >keep it relatively flat surface (since 120 film is not wide enough for >this camera format). I have heard of people rollong 120 onto 620 >spools....where is a good place to find spools? I had two...one from a >616 and one from a 620, and I used both for this project. My main goal >now is to find a way to get the film as flat across the film plane as >possible. Thanks > >~~Eric > >-- >http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~emims
From: Eric Mims [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Adapting a Kodak Brownie
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998
I have not modified the actual camera at all. I just took two old
spools and cut them so as to make 'extenders' to place on both sides of
a 120 roll. The film runs along one side of the back so that helps to
keep it relatively flat surface (since 120 film is not wide enough for
this camera format). I have heard of people rollong 120 onto 620
spools....where is a good place to find spools? I had two...one from a
616 and one from a 620, and I used both for this project. My main goal
now is to find a way to get the film as flat across the film plane as
possible. Thanks
~Eric
--
http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~emims
[ED. note: here is a great tip from Claudia - Thanks!!!]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999
From: claudia smith [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: using 120 in Kodak Six=16
Hi
I use a 616 spool for take=up and then pop 120 film in the loader with a
nickel on each side for spacers. Can get 5 exposures by advancing to 3
for the first exposure and going to 6, 9 etc. Nickels are a lot easier
than trying to make extenders. Your site is very helpful, thanks.
cioa!
Claudia