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Here is a table of current medium format lenses for 6x4.5cm, 6x6cm,
and 6x7cm SLR users. I have sorted by focal length and B&H price. Use the
Excel 5
spreadsheet to check out your own interests. Source is the B&H
Professional Photo Sourcebook (first edition). See notes for comments...
focal length | aperture | cost B&H | model | shutter | format | type | notes | |
24 | 4 | $2,115 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $2,925 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $3,999 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $4,495 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $5,797 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
35 | 3.5 | $800 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
35 | 3.5 | $1,029 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
35 | 4.5 | $1,200 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | fisheye | |
35 | 3.5 | $3,095 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
37 | 4.5 | $2,690 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | fisheye | |
37 | 4.5 | $2,690 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | fisheye | |
40 | 4 | $1,315 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
40 | 4 | $1,800 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
40 | 3.5 | $3,995 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | SA (super ang.) | |
40 | 4 | $3,995 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
40 | 4 | $4,195 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
40 | 4 | $4,799 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
45 | 2.8 | $730 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
45 | 2.8 | $839 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
45 | 2.8 | $851 | pentax FA | fp | 64.5 | SLR | autofocus | |
45 | 4 | $900 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 2.8 | $1,199 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $1,399 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | shift | |
50 | 3.5 | $1,570 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 4.5 | $1,640 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 4.5 | $1,640 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 4.5 | $1,700 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $1,999 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $2,399 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $2,696 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | FLE | |
50 | 2.8 | $3,399 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | SA (super ang.) | |
50 | 2.8 | $3,778 | hassy FLE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
55 | 2.8 | $630 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
55 | 2.8 | $665 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
55 | 4 | $900 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
55 | 2.8 | $1,619 | Mam PRO | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | leaf | |
55 | 4.5 | $7,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | tilt/shift SA.. | |
60 | 2.8 | $1,199 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
60 | 3.5 | $2,037 | hassy CB | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
60 | 3.5 | $2,599 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,435 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,515 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,860 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,875 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
75 | 2.8 | $350 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
75 | 2.8 | $441 | pentax FA | fp | 64.5 | SLR | autofocus | |
75 | 4.5 | $580 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
75 | 2.8 | $720 | pentax A | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | leaf | |
75 | 2.8 | $760 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
75 | 3.5 | $1,850 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
75 | 4.5 | $2,100 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | shift | |
75 | 4.5 | $3,000 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | PC shift | |
75 | 4.5 | $3,170 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | PC shift | |
80 | 2.8 | $499 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
80 | 1.9 | $665 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
80 | 4 | $1,055 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | macro | |
80 | 2.8 | $1,100 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,199 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,299 | Mam PRO | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | leaf | |
80 | 3.5 | $1,348 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,399 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,499 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,720 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,856 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2 | $3,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
90 | 2.8 | $600 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
90 | 3.5 | $1,390 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
90 | 3.5 | $1,600 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
90 | 4 | $2,999 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro APO | |
100 | 3.5 | $1,150 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
100 | 4 | $1,165 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | macro | |
100 | 3.5 | $2,475 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
105 | 2.4 | $470 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
105 | 4.5 | $1,294 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | macro | |
110 | 2.8 | $1,430 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
110 | 4 | $1,570 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro | |
110 | 4 | $1,700 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | macro | |
110 | 2 | $3,731 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
120 | 3.5 | $710 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | soft focus | |
120 | 4 | $760 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 4 | $1,499 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 4 | $2,774 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 4 | $2,999 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro planar | |
120 | 4 | $3,499 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | macro | |
127 | 3.5 | $1,490 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
135 | 4 | $660 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | macro | |
135 | 4 | $890 | pentax A | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | leaf | |
135 | 4 | $1,135 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
135 | 4 | $1,450 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
135 | 5.6 | $2,453 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro | |
140 | 4.5 | $1,875 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | macro | |
140 | 4.5 | $1,875 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | macro | |
150 | 3.5 | $580 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $599 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $1,199 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
150 | 2.8 | $1,469 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $1,480 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $1,490 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $1,515 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $1,570 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.8 | $1,589 | Mam PRO | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | leaf | |
150 | 4 | $1,630 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | soft focus | |
150 | 4 | $2,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $2,399 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $2,399 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4.6 | $2,699 | rollei | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro bellows | |
150 | 4 | $2,756 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 2.8 | $3,265 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
160 | 4.8 | $2,343 | hassy CB | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
165 | 2.8 | $730 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
165 | 4 | $810 | pentax67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | leaf shutter | |
180 | 4.5 | $1,515 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
180 | 4.5 | $1,515 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
180 | 4.5 | $1,535 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
180 | 4.5 | $1,995 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
180 | 4 | $2,995 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
180 | 2.8 | $3,399 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | schneider | |
200 | 4 | $680 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
200 | 4 | $790 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
200 | 4.5 | $1,215 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
200 | 4 | $1,595 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
200 | 4.5 | $1,675 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
200 | 2.8 | $2,549 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | APO | |
210 | 4.5 | $699 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
210 | 4.5 | $3,330 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
210 | 4.5 | $3,330 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
250 | 5.6 | $1,325 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $1,700 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $1,790 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 4.5 | $1,940 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
250 | 4.5 | $1,940 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $2,599 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $2,799 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $3,107 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $3,199 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 4 | $3,498 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 4.5 | $3,840 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
250 | 4.5 | $3,840 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
250 | 5.6 | $5,024 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | APO | |
300 | 4 | $1,300 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
300 | 5.6 | $1,329 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
300 | 4 | $3,300 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | EDIF | |
300 | 4 | $3,570 | pentax FA | fp | 64.5 | SLR | EDIF AF | |
300 | 4 | $4,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | APO | |
300 | 2.8 | $12,239 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | APO | |
350 | 5.6 | $3,799 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
350 | 5.6 | $4,290 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
350 | 5.6 | $4,290 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
350 | 5.6 | $6,991 | hassy CFE | leaf | 66 | SLR | S Achromat | |
350 | 4 | $7,882 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
360 | 6.7 | $2,225 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
400 | 5.6 | $2,310 | pentax FA | fp | 64.5 | SLR | EDIF AF | |
400 | 4 | $5,800 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ED IF | |
500 | 5.6 | $2,395 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
500 | 5.6 | $2,500 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $3,079 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | S | |
500 | 8 | $3,189 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | EII | |
500 | 8 | $4,099 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $4,540 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $4,550 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $5,673 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
500 | 6.7 | $6,000 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
500 | 6 | $6,200 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
500 | 8 | $11,000 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $11,220 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $11,424 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
500 | 4.5 | $18,359 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | ||
600 | 4 | $4,000 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
600 | 5.6 | $5,000 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | EDIF | |
800 | 4 | $7,300 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
800 | 6.7 | $11,000 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ED IF | |
1000 | 8 | $5,900 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | mirror | |
1000 | 8 | $20,999 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
1000 | 8 | $24,999 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
1.4X | $370 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $520 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
1.4X | $815 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $865 | SQAI PS | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
1.4X | $870 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $900 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
1.4X | $1,049 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $1,055 | hassy | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
1.4X shift | $3,395 | hassy | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
100-200 | 5.2 | $3,740 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | zoom | |
100-200 | 5.2 | $3,740 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | zoom | |
100-220 | 4.8 | $1,894 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | IF | |
140-280 | 5.6 | $5,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro zoom | |
140-280 | 5.6 | $6,428 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | zoom | |
2X | $430 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $590 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
2X | $739 | Mam PRO | fp | 64.5 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $835 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $845 | SQAI PS | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
2X | $935 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
2X | $999 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $999 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
45-85 | 4.5 | $1,500 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | zoom | |
45-85 | 4.5 | $1,743 | pentax FA | fp | 64.5 | SLR | zoom AF | |
45-90 | 4-5.6 | $1,439 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 64.5 | SLR | zoom asp. | |
50-100 | 4.5-5.6 | ~$2,500* | SQ-Ai PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | zoom | |
75-150 | 4.5 | $4,799 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro zoom | |
80-160 | 4.5 | $1,380 | pentax A | fp | 64.5 | SLR | zoom |
focal length | aperture | cost B&H | model | shutter | format | type | notes | |
24 | 4 | $2,115 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $2,925 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | fisheye | |
35 | 3.5 | $800 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
35 | 3.5 | $1,029 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
40 | 4 | $1,315 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
45 | 2.8 | $730 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
45 | 2.8 | $839 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
45 | 2.8 | $851 | pentax FA | fp | 645 | SLR | autofocus | |
50 | 2.8 | $1,199 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $1,399 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | shift | |
55 | 2.8 | $630 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
55 | 2.8 | $665 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
55 | 2.8 | $1,619 | Mam PRO | leaf | 645 | SLR | leaf | |
60 | 2.8 | $1,199 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
75 | 2.8 | $350 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
75 | 2.8 | $441 | pentax FA | fp | 645 | SLR | autofocus | |
75 | 2.8 | $720 | pentax A | leaf | 645 | SLR | leaf | |
75 | 2.8 | $760 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $499 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
80 | 1.9 | $665 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
80 | 4 | $1,055 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | macro | |
80 | 2.8 | $1,299 | Mam PRO | leaf | 645 | SLR | leaf | |
100 | 4 | $1,165 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | macro | |
105 | 4.5 | $1,294 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 4 | $760 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 4 | $1,499 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | macro | |
135 | 4 | $890 | pentax A | leaf | 645 | SLR | leaf | |
135 | 4 | $1,135 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $580 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $599 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $1,199 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
150 | 2.8 | $1,469 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.8 | $1,589 | Mam PRO | leaf | 645 | SLR | leaf | |
180 | 4.5 | $1,535 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
200 | 4 | $680 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
200 | 4.5 | $1,215 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
200 | 2.8 | $2,549 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | APO | |
210 | 4 | $699 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $1,325 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
300 | 5.6 | $1,329 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
300 | 4 | $3,300 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | EDIF | |
300 | 4 | $3,570 | pentax FA | fp | 645 | SLR | EDIF AF | |
300 | 2.8 | $12,239 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | APO | |
400 | 5.6 | $2,310 | pentax FA | fp | 645 | SLR | EDIF AF | |
500 | 5.6 | $2,395 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $3,189 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | EII | |
500 | 8 | $11,000 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | ||
500 | 4.5 | $18,359 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | ||
600 | 5.6 | $5,000 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | EDIF | |
1.4X | $370 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $815 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
100-220 | 4.8 | $1,894 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | IF | |
2X | $430 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $739 | Mam PRO | fp | 645 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $835 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
45-85 | 4.5 | $1,500 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | zoom | |
45-85 | 4.5 | $1,743 | pentax FA | fp | 645 | SLR | zoom AF | |
45-90 | 4-5.6 | $1,439 | ETRSi PE | leaf | 645 | SLR | zoom asp. | |
80-160 | 4.5 | $1,380 | pentax A | fp | 645 | SLR | zoom |
focal length | aperture | cost B&H | model | shutter | format | type | notes | |
30 | 3.5 | $3,999 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $4,495 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
30 | 3.5 | $5,797 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
35 | 3.5 | $3,095 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | fisheye | |
40 | 4 | $1,800 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
40 | 3.5 | $3,995 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | SA (super ang.) | |
40 | 4 | $3,995 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
40 | 4 | $4,195 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
40 | 4 | $4,799 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 3.5 | $1,570 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $1,999 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $2,399 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
50 | 4 | $2,696 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | FLE | |
50 | 2.8 | $3,399 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | SA (super ang.) | |
50 | 2.8 | $3,778 | hassy FLE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
55 | 4.5 | $7,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | tilt/shift SA.. | |
60 | 3.5 | $2,037 | hassy CB | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
60 | 3.5 | $2,599 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,435 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,100 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,199 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,399 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,499 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,720 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2.8 | $1,856 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
80 | 2 | $3,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
90 | 4 | $2,999 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro APO | |
100 | 3.5 | $2,475 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
110 | 4 | $1,570 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro | |
110 | 2 | $3,731 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
120 | 4 | $2,774 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 4 | $2,999 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro planar | |
120 | 4 | $3,499 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | macro | |
135 | 4 | $1,450 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
135 | 5.6 | $2,453 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro | |
150 | 4 | $1,570 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $2,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $2,399 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $2,399 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 4.6 | $2,699 | rollei | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro bellows | |
150 | 4 | $2,756 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
150 | 2.8 | $3,265 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
160 | 4.8 | $2,343 | hassy CB | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
180 | 4.5 | $1,995 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
180 | 4 | $2,995 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
180 | 2.8 | $3,399 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | schneider | |
200 | 4.5 | $1,675 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $1,790 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $2,599 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $2,799 | rollei PQS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $3,107 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $3,199 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 4 | $3,498 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
250 | 5.6 | $5,024 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | APO | |
300 | 4 | $4,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | APO | |
350 | 5.6 | $3,799 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
350 | 5.6 | $6,991 | hassy CFE | leaf | 66 | SLR | S Achromat | |
350 | 4 | $7,882 | hassy FE | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $3,079 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | S | |
500 | 8 | $4,099 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $5,673 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $11,424 | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
1000 | 8 | $20,999 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | ||
1000 | 8 | $24,999 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | ||
1.4X | $865 | SQAI PS | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
1.4X | $1,049 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $1,055 | hassy | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
1.4X shift | $3,395 | hassy | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
140-280 | 5.6 | $5,199 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro zoom | |
50-100 | 4.5-5.6 | ~$2,500* | SQAI PS | leaf | 66 | SLR | zoom | |
140-280 | 5.6 | $6,428 | hassy CF | leaf | 66 | SLR | zoom | |
2X | $845 | SQAI PS | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | |||
2X | $999 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
2X | $999 | rollei sl66 | fp | 66 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
75-150 | 4.5 | $4,799 | rollei PQ | leaf | 66 | SLR | macro zoom |
focal length | aperture | cost B&H | model | shutter | format | type | notes | |
35 | 4.5 | $1,200 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | fisheye | |
37 | 4.5 | $2,690 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | fisheye | |
37 | 4.5 | $2,690 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | fisheye | |
45 | 4 | $900 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 4.5 | $1,640 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 4.5 | $1,640 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
50 | 4.5 | $1,700 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
55 | 4 | $900 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,515 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,860 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
65 | 4 | $1,875 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
75 | 4.5 | $580 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
75 | 3.5 | $1,850 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
75 | 4.5 | $2,100 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | shift | |
75 | 4.5 | $3,000 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | PC shift | |
75 | 4.5 | $3,170 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | PC shift | |
80 | 3.5 | $1,348 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
90 | 2.8 | $600 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
90 | 3.5 | $1,390 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
90 | 3.5 | $1,600 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
100 | 3.5 | $1,150 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
105 | 2.4 | $470 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
110 | 2.8 | $1,430 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
110 | 4 | $1,700 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | macro | |
120 | 3.5 | $710 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | soft focus | |
127 | 3.5 | $1,490 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
135 | 4 | $660 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | macro | |
140 | 4.5 | $1,875 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | macro | |
140 | 4.5 | $1,875 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | macro | |
150 | 3.5 | $1,480 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
150 | 3.5 | $1,490 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $1,515 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
150 | 4 | $1,630 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | soft focus | |
165 | 2.8 | $730 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
165 | 4 | $810 | pentax67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | leaf shutter | |
180 | 4.5 | $1,515 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
180 | 4.5 | $1,515 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
200 | 4 | $790 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
200 | 4.5 | $1,595 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
210 | 4.5 | $3,330 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
210 | 4.5 | $3,330 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
250 | 5.6 | $1,700 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
250 | 4.5 | $1,940 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
250 | 4.5 | $1,940 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
250 | 4.5 | $3,840 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
250 | 4.5 | $3,840 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
300 | 4 | $1,300 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
350 | 5.6 | $4,290 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
350 | 5.6 | $4,290 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
360 | 6.7 | $2,225 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
400 | 4 | $5,800 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ED IF | |
500 | 5.6 | $2,500 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $4,540 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 8 | $4,550 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
500 | 6.7 | $6,000 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
500 | 6 | $6,200 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | APO | |
500 | 8 | $11,220 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | ||
600 | 4 | $4,000 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
800 | 4 | $7,300 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ||
800 | 6.7 | $11,000 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | ED IF | |
1000 | 8 | $5,900 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | mirror | |
1.4X | $520 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
1.4X | $870 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | telecnvtr | ||
1.4X | $900 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
100-200 | 5.2 | $3,740 | RB67Pro | leaf | 67 | SLR | zoom | |
100-200 | 5.2 | $3,740 | RZ67 | leaf | 67 | SLR | zoom | |
2X | $590 | pentax67 | fp | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt | ||
2X | $935 | bronicags1 | leaf | 67 | SLR | telecnvrt |
24mm f3.5 F Distagon - about 50 0.01% 30mm f3.5 F Distagon C - under 1000 0.24% 40mm f4 Distagon C - approx. 9,000 2.16% 50mm f4 Distagon C - approx. 75,000 18.03% 80mm f2.8 C Planar - approx. 210,000 50.46% 105mm f4.3 UV (quartz) - approx. 100 0.02% 120mm f5.6 S-Planar - approx. 14,000 3.36% 150mm f4 Sonnar C - approx. 70,000 16.82% 250mm f5.6 Sonnar C - approx. 30,000 7.21% 350mm f5.6 Tele-Tessar C - approx. 3,000 0.72% 500mm f8 Tele-Tessar C - approx. 4,000 0.96% For non-SLR Hasselblads: 38mm Super Wide (Angle) - approx. 2,000 38mm Super Wide C - approx. 14,000 38mm SWC/M (incl. CF) - approx. 6,000[from Specialty Areas of Photography...]
What is the typical medium format SLR lens user profile in terms of lenses
owned and used? The short answer is that roughly 85% of all Hasselblad
lens sales are for the classic trio of 50mm wide angle, 80mm normal, and
150mm telephoto lenses (see sales table above). I consider these the
"people and places" lens kit. Most photographers shooting such subjects
will want a trio of wide/normal/tele optics of their choice. Lens choice
is obviously highly personal and dependent upon your professional needs.
On the other hand, if you are buying the 250mm super apochromatic lens at
an equally super price, or the $15,000 US quartz 105mm UV specialty
lenses, you should have a specific scientific need for these lenses (or be
a very well heeled collector!). The fisheye lens is often rented for
specialty shots. The frequency of use of fisheyes for most photographers
is low, and that is a lot of money to tie up in a low usage lens.
Similarly, unless you do a lot of bird/nature or industry telephoto shots,
the 350mm and 500mm lenses run under 2% of sales. Many low selling pricey
lenses which are infrequently used are probably often rented by
photographers who just need access for a specific job need. If you
anticipate lots of rentals over time it may be wiser to buy one if you can
afford to do so.
The Hasselblad Superwide slightly distorts the
wide angle sales of the Hasselblad line, since you can opt for the highly
corrected 38mm Biogon as your wide angle. SLR users may prefer the 40mm
distagon lens instead, but even adding up both lenses suggests that only
7+% of Hasselblad lens sales are in this 40mm very wide angle
range.
This problem has several dimensions. First, was a lens ever
produced in
the desired focal length and/or speed needed? If yes, are they available
new or used at an affordable price, or via local or mail order lens
rentals? If not, is there another alternative such as a fisheye
adapter which would work sufficient for your needs or budget
instead?
Similarly, the unique 19mm Kowa fisheye is another lens that was made, but
in such low numbers as to be found in only a handful of camera bags. If
anything, I feel very lucky to have the 35mm Kowa 6x6cm ultrawide
rectilinear optic. I have only seen one other such lens offered for sale
in 2+ years. I need to caution you that just because a lens might have
been made, doesn't mean you can find one for sale even if you could afford
it!
My point here is that it may be simpler, easier and lots cheaper to have a
second medium format camera with different strengths than to try and
extend a single system to do every possible job you might
encounter. Different SLR systems have different strengths. Many
photographers have even bought yet another 6x6cm SLR just to get access to
a single low cost lens available for it. I am thinking of the
highly rated 30mm fisheye medium format lens for the Kiev-60 and Kiev-88
series camera bodies and lens mounts. But someone else might buy
into the Kiev lineup to get those low cost shift lenses (with 3
available lenses under $1,000 US). Other photographers have bought
Hasselblad Superwide cameras just to get
the highly regarded Zeiss Biogon 38mm rectilinear lens. So consider
this approach if you have only a few holes and such a solution is
feasible or suggests itself. More cameras = more fun!
This review is a brief example of how you can "mine" the tables of lens
availability data and pricing information to consider which camera offers
the best match to your lens requirements and budget. While these are just
some of the factors to consider, the cost and availability of lenses has a
major impact on what you can do and afford to buy for your system. You can
also check the newly published (6/2000) McBroom's Camera Pricing
Guide for pricing on recent and current medium format cameras, lenses,
and accessories.
Rentals come in two flavors. A local camera shop may have a 40mm lens they
would prefer to sell, but it isn't a fast turnover item. So they are happy
to rent such a lens for a rental fee (plus insurance costs). Who knows,
maybe you will decide to buy the lens, and at worst they have some income
from rentals. But eventually, somebody decides to buy that 40mm lens, and
now they don't have one. This setup lets you test a lens before buying,
but it makes it hard to rely on the local store for rental gear since they
aren't in the business in a serious way.
On the other hand, there are pro shops which support a strong rental
program with equipment dedicated to such rental services. One reason you
will find so many pro stores with Hasselblad rental gear may relate to
great deals the store has gotten on such rental equipment from your
national Hasselblad importer and distributor. By contrast, another brand
such as Rollei may have a different rental incentives program, or have
fewer dealers enrolled. If you happen to have a local dealer who provides
such Rollei SLR lenses in depth in their rental program, you are in luck.
But many of us are not so lucky. The only option may be to rent such
equipment via the mails, where such services are available. And when one
of the major national rental sources for Rollei SLR lenses drops their
Rollei rental by mail program, you will see a number of posting on
related mailing lists from
dismayed users who have lost their main source for such needed lens
rentals.
I should also cite another personal observation that it is easier to go
with the flow on rentals. Are you a semi-professional photographer who plans on
renting unusual lenses when needed locally? If so, it may behoove you to
buy a basic camera kit that matches the local rentals program. So while I
have
only a few lenses for my Hasselblad 500c and 500 EL/M cameras, I can rent
more exotic optics locally if I should need them for modest fees. I have a
number of backs (including 6x4.5cm and polaroid) and viewfinders and two
bodies (for backup purposes). While I could
rent the entire setup, the cost for renting spare bodies and backs and
viewfinders
adds up fast too. So I can just rent the exotic pricey optics when I need
them and use them with my older bodies, backs, and finders. But if I had a
different 6x6cm SLR (e.g., Rollei 600x), I might have a harder time
finding a local rental source for exotic optics. If you haven't bought
into a major system yet, and are considering supplementing your startup
kit with local rentals, you need to review local rental program costs and
availability issues carefully.
You can also use your rental receipts and projected usage rental fees to
identify potential needs that might be cheaper if met with a purchase
rather than frequent renting. For example, buying a $300 used macro lens
and tubes for a Kowa 6/66 might be a better way to get a flat field lens
than frequently renting the 120mm macro Hasselblad version. My point
here is that you have to consider the cost of other alternatives,
including buying into another (budget) line that covers such needs at an
attractive total cost. Just because your main system is a Rollei SLR or
Hasselblad doesn't mean you can't use or justify another camera or lens
setup for doing an infrequent or specific task. Not only will this
approach solve your current problem, but it may open up solutions
to other problems in the future more easily too. In engineering
terms, you have more "degrees of freedom" in finding a solution to
any problem with multiple camera systems than with just one.
If you really like the 30mm Hasselblad fisheye ($5,800 at B&H), you might
consider buying a Kiev-60 with the well regarded 30mm fisheye on 6x6 for
circa $400 for both 30mm lens and Kiev-60 camera with metering prism. It
doesn't take many Hasselblad 30mm rentals at that price to pay for the
alternative 30mm lens and camera. You can also recoup part of your
investment when you resell your Kiev 60 and fisheye lens too. With
rentals, you will just have a pile of receipts and no gear to resell. So
your total cost of ownership may be surprisingly low if you find the
Kiev-60 and 30mm lens an acceptable alternative.
Another set of financial tips for the semipro
photographer suggest ways to use your photo business to reduce costs too.
By using such business related deductions, you can greatly reduce the
amount of taxes you pay for such business related goods and services too.
On other lenses, you may be on a nearly one year wait cycle for the
annual production run of a particular lens. Get the idea? Lots of lenses
are listed which sell in such small quantities that they are custom built
on your order. So you can't rent or buy one right away, even if you have
the $21,000+ available in your hand.
Hmmm? Maybe that Pentax 67 with 800mm f/4 lens for only $7,300 is starting
to look pretty good about now? Here again, it may be cheaper to buy
another camera body than try to deal with higher costs and delays in
another lineup. And obviously, I am not saying these practices are limited
to a single manufacturer or unusual; all the manufacturers have limited
production one-off lenses that are custom built after you order and
pay for them!
One solution to these problems of lens availability and cost is discussed
in the section on lens adapters below. Thanks to these low cost
alternatives, you can get some unusual effects such as fisheye photos,
ultrawide shots with amusing distortions, and additional short telephoto
soft portrait lens options at surprisingly low cost. Best of all, these
adapters can work on a variety of cameras, including medium format SLRs,
TLRs, rangefinders, and even 35 cameras with low cost adapter rings. So
don't despair if the lenses you want aren't available for your system. Use
an adapter instead!
So the above sales table is not a usage table, but simply a reminder that
not everybody has a 40mm lens, let alone the 30mm fisheye. You may be
happier using a 2X teleconverter on your 150mm f/4 knowing that less than
1% of the lenses sold were 350mm f/5.6 optics, and many were probably in
rental programs to boot. I am fairly happy with the circular fisheye
photos from mounting my Kenko 0.18X fisheye
adapter ($50-100 US used) on
my medium format lens(es) [more so than on 35mm]. For one per cent of the
cost of a new 30mm Hasselblad fisheye, I can take fisheye photos on my
Hasselblad older 500C and 500 EL/M, but also Kowa 6/66 SLRs, Bronica
Z/S2A/EC SLRs, Rolleiflex and other TLRs, 6x9cm folders and even
35mm. Wow!
Similarly, my 0.42X superwide and 0.5X wide angle adapters are pretty
handy wherever wider coverage is needed than a less distorted rectilinear
50mm. Here again, the 0.42X adapter turns the normal 80mm lens into a near
35mm ultrawide lens (with unique barrel distortion of a semi-fisheye
optic). The 0.5X adapter on an 80mm normal lens yields a 40mm very wide
angle effect, with somewhat less distortion than the 0.42X superwide
adapter. The 0.6x wide angle adapter produces a bit more distortion than
the true 50mm wide angle lens, but the result is a unique if subtle
distortion effect. Naturally, lens adapters won't have the same refined
edge resolution and contrast of a true prime (fixed) lens, and flare
resistance will often be lower too. But a low cost lens adapter in the
hand beats a non-existent or unaffordable lens in the catalog anyday!
You can also find some odd-ball telephoto
adapters and very low cost ($10-20 US used) kits of a wide angle and
telephoto adapter lens. These kits are much poorer optically than the more
expensive and heavier glass 0.42X and similar very wide 0.5X adapters. But
I have found that the softening effects of the 1.25X telephoto adapter in
some of these kits has some limited uses as a short telephoto lens for
portraiture. Here, the softening effect of the low cost optics is a
benefit, as it smooths out the wrinkles and facial faults of the subject.
The resulting 100mm range focal length (1.25X) to 120mm (1.5X) is less
ideal than the typical 150mm or 180mm portrait lens usually used on 6x6cm
SLRs. But the effects are slightly more compression and less facial
distortion than the normal lens in your shots. For the price of a no-name
filter ($10 or so), you can try out these effects cheaply enough and see
if you like and
can use them.
Finally, I highly recommend trying out two element achromatic diopter closeup lenses if you don't have access to either extension tubes or bellows with macro lenses. The results are very useful for most natural subjects, where slight distortion in the image edges is rarely noticeable or objectionable. Unfortunately, if you are copying documents or artworks and duplicating color slides, you may have to spring for a true macro lens (or make one - see homebrew medium format lenses).
Most lens mount adapters don't preserve metering or lens diaphragm
automation, so you have to be able to meter and use
the lens in manual mode (or use a handheld meter). Unfortunately, most
medium format lenses are rather expensive. So it may be cheaper to buy a
used camera body for the cheaper lenses and use them on the fully
automatic body (e.g., Kiev-60). But this approach can be quite attractive
if you have a lot of lenses in one mount and want to use them on a second
focal plane body style (e.g., Bronica S2/EC on pentax 645 or Rollei
SL66).
Unfortunately, leaf shutter lenses are much harder to
interchange, so few such mount adapters are available for them.
After considering the cost of a full range of Hasselblad lenses against my
grad student budget, I opted to expand my Kowa 6/66 system to a full range
of leaf shutter lenses from 35mm to 250mm, including 110 flatfield macro
and the 35mm ultrawide lens - the widest rectilinear every made for 6x6cm
SLRs. The cost was less than a single macro lens for my Hasselblad
500c! In other words, sometimes it is a lot cheaper to switch than to
fight!
In a few cases, the savings with lens mount adapters are so great that you
can get the lenses permanently adapted to the new body and save a lot over
similar OEM lenses, or get lenses not otherwise available. For example,
KievUSA adapts some of their lenses for Hasselblad 200/2000 series focal
plane body mounts. Given that there are three (3!) wide angle shift lenses
(45mm, 55mm, 65mm) for the Kiev mounts, as well as a low cost 30mm fisheye
($200+ US), the attraction of such options becomes doubly apparent. You
can save a lot of money (even at nearly $1,000 for the converted mount
lenses), and you can get some optics you can't otherwise get on your
camera. Neat!
Look into potential for renting exotic lenses you are unlikely to rent
very often. If you can't rent locally, inquire if other mail rental
services are available (e.g., on user mailing
lists). If you can't rent, look into buying new items more cheaply
overseas as well as on the used market.
One of my more surprising suggestions has probably been that since no
one medium format camera system is equally strong in all areas - optically
or otherwise - you should consider combining the strengths of multiple
systems. Not only is this more fun, but you may find as I have that a mix
of leaf shutter and focal plane cameras provides a lot more capabilities
at lower total cost than either system
alone. In my case, I have combined the low cost of closeup and longer
telephoto lenses for focal plane cameras (Bronica S2/EC) with the desired
leaf shutter optics focusing on wide angle and short telephoto
portraiture with fill-in flash options.
Another surprise for many readers has probably been my suggestion that you
consider buying a particular camera or lens to fill a real need beyond the
range of available or affordable optics on your current system. Using my
Hasselblad 500c system as an example, I can rent the 30mm Zeiss fisheye
many times rather than find $5,800 US to buy one (at B&H discount
prices!). But I can pay for a fisheye adapter for most of my fun and
explorational shots for the price of one weekend's rental (e.g., $50 US
up). Similarly, for under $400 I can buy a Kiev-60 with their 30mm fisheye
optic and take similar photos but of higher quality than my adapter. On
the other hand, I could buy 2 pentax 67 bodies each with its own $1,200
35mm fisheye for less than the price of the cheapest 30mm leaf shutter
fisheye ($4,500 US on Rollei 600x). If I must have fill-in flash synch
with fisheye coverage, I use one of my adapters (fisheye or ultrawide) on
the leaf shutter prime lens. Make sense? Sure it isn't as great as the
zeiss lens, but we live in an imperfect world!
Finally, having multiple cameras enables you to have the fun and excuse of
experimenting with them to extend your enjoyment of photography. As I have
added a lens here and an adapter there, I have greatly expanded the
capabilities of my equipment. But it is more important to go out and use
the gear you have and make small improvements and try things out than it
is to wait for a winning lottery ticket to buy that ideal dream
outfit. The results and experiences you get from this experimenting and
learning process will make you appreciate each camera and lens setup for
its own merits, charms, and uses in your photography!
Good Shooting!
Medium Format Lenses Sorted by Focal Length and Minimum Focusing Distance (plus wt. and filter sizes) | Camera: | lens f/l (mm) | minimum distance (m) | max magnif. | wt (grams) | wt (lbs) | filter (mm) | notes |
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RolleiPQ/S | 1000mm | 21.00 | 8740 | 19.25 | - | ||
Pentax67 | 1000mm | 35.00 | 6660 | 14.67 | built-in | mirror | |
ETRSi | 100-200mm | 1.00 | 1:4.9 | 1940 | 4.27 | 95 | |
MamRB67 | 100-200mm | .55-1.2 | .45-.25 | 1660 | 3.66 | 77 | |
MamRZ67 | 100-200mm | .55-1.22 | .45-.24 | 1620 | 3.57 | 77 | |
Pentax67 | 100mm | 0.30 | 600 | 1.32 | 77 | macro | |
FujiGX680 | 100mm | 0.47 | .59 | 910 | 2.00 | 82 | |
BronGS1 | 100mm | 0.75 | 630 | 1.39 | 72 | ||
HassyCF | 100mm | 0.90 | 605 | 1.33 | 60 | ||
Mam645 | 105-210mm | 1.80 | .07-.14 | 875 | 1.93 | 58 | |
Mam645AF | 105-210mm | 1.80 | 990 | 2.18 | 67 | ULD | |
ETRSi | 105mm | 0.35 | 1:1 | 920 | 2.03 | 67 | macro |
Pentax67 | 105mm | 1.00 | 590 | 1.30 | 67 | ||
BronSq | 110mm | 0.37 | 1:1 | 940 | 2.07 | 72 | macro |
MamRZ67 | 110mm | 0.53 | .33 | 610 | 1.34 | 77 | |
BronGS1 | 110mm | 0.66 | 1:4 | 725 | 1.60 | 72 | macro |
HassyFE | 110mm | 0.80 | 760 | 1.67 | 70 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 110mm | 0.80 | 960 | 2.11 | M95 | ||
FujiGX680 | 115mm | 0.50 | .55 | 870 | 1.92 | 95 | |
Pentax645 | 120mm | 0.39 | 695 | 1.53 | 67 | macro | |
Mam645 | 120mm | 0.40 | 1 | 745 | 1.64 | 67 | macro |
Pent645AF | 120mm | 0.40 | 1:1 | 735 | 1.62 | 67 | macro |
Contax645 | 120mm | 0.43 | 1:1 | 780 | 1.72 | 72 | |
Pentax67 | 120mm | 0.75 | 520 | 1.15 | 77 | soft | |
HassyCF | 120mm | 0.80 | 695 | 1.53 | 60 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 120mm | 0.80 | 960 | 2.11 | Rollei VI | ||
FujiGX680 | 125mm | 0.55 | .51 | 895 | 1.97 | 95 | |
FujiGX680 | 125mm | 0.57 | .47 | 545 | 1.20 | 82 | |
MamRB67 | 127mm | 0.64 | .36 | 780 | 1.72 | 77 | |
FujiGX680 | 135mm | 0.64 | .43 | 565 | 1.24 | 82 | |
Pentax67 | 135mm | 0.75 | 620 | 1.37 | 67 | macro | |
BronSq | 135mm | 1.00 | 755 | 1.66 | 67 | ||
ETRSi | 135mm | 1.00 | 750 | 1.65 | 62 | ||
Pentax645 | 135mm | 1.25 | 470 | 1.04 | 58 | leaf | |
HassyCF | 135mm | 1:1 | 625 | 1.38 | 60 | macro | |
HassyCF | 140-280mm | 2.50 | 1850 | 4.07 | 93 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 140-280mm | 2.50 | 1750 | 3.85 | M95 | zoom | |
MamRB67 | 140mm | 0.76 | .33 | 870 | 1.92 | 77 | macro |
MamRZ67 | 140mm | 0.76 | .33 | 930 | 2.05 | 77 | macro |
Contax645 | 140mm | 1.30 | 685 | 1.51 | 72 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 150/150mmEL | 1.40 | 890 | 1.96 | Rollei VI | ||
MamRB67 | 150mm | 0.58 | .31 | 840 | 1.85 | 77 | |
FujiGX680 | 150mm | 0.72 | .42 | 705 | 1.55 | 82 | |
MamRZ67 | 150mm | 0.82 | .32 | 825 | 1.82 | 77 | |
MamRB67 | 150mm | 0.86 | .3 | 790 | 1.74 | 77 | soft |
HassyCF | 150mm | 1.40 | 785 | 1.73 | 60 | ||
HassyFE | 150mm | 1.40 | 710 | 1.56 | 70 | ||
Mam645AF | 150mm | 1.40 | 700 | 1.54 | 67 | ||
Pentax645 | 150mm | 1.40 | 435 | 0.96 | 58 | ||
BronGS1 | 150mm | 1.50 | 650 | 1.43 | 72 | ||
BronSq | 150mm | 1.50 | 740 | 1.63 | 67 | ||
ETRSi | 150mm | 1.50 | 635 | 1.40 | 62 | ||
Mam645 | 150mm | 1.50 | .12 | 740 | 1.63 | 67 | |
Mam645 | 150mm | 1.50 | .12 | 420 | 0.93 | 67 | |
Pent645AF | 150mm | 1.50 | .16 | 500 | 1.10 | 67 | IF |
Mamiya7 | 150mm | 1.80 | .1 | 520 | 1.15 | 67 | |
RolleiPQ/S | 150mm | 1:1.1 | 706 | 1.56 | Rollei VI | macro | |
Mam645 | 150mm (leaf) | 1.50 | .12 | 620 | 1.37 | 67 | leaf |
HassyCB | 160mm | 1.50 | 650 | 1.43 | 60 | ||
Pentax67 | 165mm | 1.60 | 835 | 1.84 | 67 | ||
Pentax67 | 165mm | 1.60 | 780 | 1.72 | 77 | leaf | |
MamRZ67 | 180mm | 0.78 | .26 | 1039 | 2.29 | 77 | soft |
FujiGX680 | 180mm | 0.97 | .3 | 1030 | 2.27 | 95 | |
BronSq | 180mm | 1.00 | 865 | 1.91 | 67 | ||
ETRSi | 180mm | 1.00 | 840 | 1.85 | 62 | ||
MamRB67 | 180mm | 1.10 | .26 | 930 | 2.05 | 77 | |
MamRZ67 | 180mm | 1.10 | .26 | 900 | 1.98 | 77 | |
FujiGX680 | 180mm | 1.20 | .23 | 800 | 1.76 | 82 | |
HassyCF | 180mm | 1.50 | 1075 | 2.37 | 60 | ||
MamRZ67 | 180mm | 1.80 | .1 | 808 | 1.78 | 77 | |
RolleiPQ/S | 180mm | 1.80 | 1525 | 3.36 | M95 | ||
FujiGX680 | 190mm | 1.50 | .17 | 690 | 1.52 | 82 | |
Pent645AF | 200mm | 1.50 | .16 | 670 | 1.48 | 58 | IF |
Pentax67 | 200mm | 1.50 | 795 | 1.75 | 77 | ||
BronGS1 | 200mm | 2.00 | 970 | 2.14 | 82 | ||
ETRSi | 200mm | 2.00 | 775 | 1.71 | 62 | ||
Pentax645 | 200mm | 2.00 | 570 | 1.26 | 58 | ||
BronSq | 200mm | 2.50 | 870 | 1.92 | 67 | ||
Mam645 | 200mm | 2.50 | .1 | 1100 | 2.42 | 77 | |
Contax645 | 210mm | 1.40 | 1205 | 2.65 | 72 | ||
FujiGX680 | 210mm | 1.40 | .22 | 835 | 1.84 | 82 | |
MamRB67 | 210mm | 1.40 | .22 | 1020 | 2.25 | 77 | APO |
MamRZ67 | 210mm | 1.40 | .22 | 980 | 2.16 | 77 | APO |
Mam645AF | 210mm | 2.00 | 720 | 1.59 | 58 | IF | |
Mam645 | 210mm | 2.50 | .1 | 715 | 1.57 | 58 | |
Mamiya7 | 210mm | 7.00 | .032 | 460 | 1.01 | 58 | |
Mam645 | 24mm | 0.30 | .14 | 785 | 1.73 | n/a | fisheye |
MamRB67 | 250mm | 1.80 | .19 | 1130 | 2.49 | 77 | |
MamRZ67 | 250mm | 1.80 | .19 | 1080 | 2.38 | 77 | |
MamRB67 | 250mm | 1.90 | .19 | 1370 | 3.02 | 77 | APO |
MamRZ67 | 250mm | 1.90 | .19 | 1340 | 2.95 | 77 | APO |
FujiGX680 | 250mm | 2.50 | .12 | 925 | 2.04 | 82 | |
HassyCF | 250mm | 2.50 | 1000 | 2.20 | 60 | ||
HassyFE | 250mm | 2.50 | 920 | 2.03 | 70 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 250mm | 2.50 | 1150 | 2.53 | Rollei VI | ||
BronGS1 | 250mm | 3.00 | 1200 | 2.64 | 82 | ||
BronSq | 250mm | 3.00 | 1010 | 2.22 | 67 | ||
ETRSi | 250mm | 3.00 | 910 | 2.00 | 62 | ||
HassyCF | 250mm APO | 3.00 | 985 | 2.17 | 60 | ||
Pentax67 | 300mm | 2.00 | 1650 | 3.63 | 82 | IF-ED | |
Pent645AF | 300mm | 2.20 | .16 | 775 | 1.71 | 67 | IF-ED |
Mam645AF | 300mm | 3.00 | 1240 | 2.73 | 77 | IF | |
Pent645AF | 300mm | 3.00 | 1490 | 3.28 | 77 | IF-ED | |
Pentax645 | 300mm | 3.00 | 1360 | 3.00 | 77 | IF-ED | |
RolleiPQ/S | 300mm | 3.20 | 2000 | 4.41 | M95 | APO | |
FujiGX680 | 300mm | 3.40 | .11 | 1100 | 2.42 | 82 | |
Mam645 | 300mm | 3.50 | .1 | 2700 | 5.95 | built-in | |
Mam645 | 300mm | 4.00 | .09 | 710 | 1.56 | 58 | |
Pentax67 | 300mm | 5.00 | 1430 | 3.15 | 82 | ||
ETRSi | 30mm | 0.27 | 900 | 1.98 | 32.5 | fisheye | |
HassyCF | 30mm | 0.30 | 1365 | 3.01 | 26 | fisheye | |
RolleiPQ/S | 30mm | 0.30 | 1550 | 3.41 | built-in | ||
Contax645 | 350mm | 1.90 | 3610 | 7.95 | 95 | ||
HassyFE | 350mm | 1.90 | 2000 | 4.41 | 93 | ||
MamRB67 | 350mm | 3.40 | .13 | 1440 | 3.17 | 77 | APO |
MamRZ67 | 350mm | 3.40 | .13 | 1455 | 3.20 | 77 | APO |
RolleiPQ/S | 350mm | 5.00 | 1650 | 3.63 | M86 | ||
HassyCF | 350mm APO | 3.70 | 1800 | 3.96 | 93 | ||
BronSq | 35mm | 0.28 | 960 | 2.11 | 32.5 | fisheye | |
Pent645AF | 35mm | 0.30 | .25 | 560 | 1.23 | 82 | IF |
Pentax645 | 35mm | 0.30 | 470 | 1.04 | 77 | ||
Mam645 | 35mm | 0.45 | .11 | 445 | 0.98 | 77 | |
Pentax67 | 35mm | 0.45 | 920 | 2.03 | built-in | fisheye | |
Contax645 | 35mm | 0.50 | 781 | 1.72 | 95 | ||
MamRB67 | 37mm | 0.26 | 1.2 | 1240 | 2.73 | 40.5 | fisheye |
MamRZ67 | 37mm | 0.26 | 1.2 | 1280 | 2.82 | 40.5 | fisheye |
HassyCF | 38mm | 0.30 | 875 | 1.93 | 60 | ||
Pentax67 | 400mm | 2.80 | 3700 | 8.15 | 67 | IF-ED | |
Pent645AF | 400mm | 3.00 | 1260 | 2.78 | 77 | IF-ED | |
ETRSi | 40mm | 0.35 | 510 | 1.12 | 62 | ||
BronSq | 40mm | 0.40 | 650 | 1.43 | 95 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 40mm | 0.40 | 750 | 1.65 | M77 | Super Ang | |
HassyCF | 40mm | 0.50 | 915 | 2.02 | 93 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 40mm FLE | 0.50 | 1040 | 2.29 | M95 | ||
Mamiya7 | 43mm | 1.00 | .05 | 390 | 0.86 | 67 | |
Pent645AF | 45-85mm | 0.50 | 870 | 1.92 | 77 | ||
Pentax645 | 45-85mm | 0.50 | 805 | 1.77 | 77 | ||
ETRSi | 45-90mm | 0.50 | 1015 | 2.24 | 95 | ||
Pentax67 | 45mm | 0.37 | 485 | 1.07 | 82 | ||
Mam645 | 45mm | 0.45 | .15 | 475 | 1.05 | 67 | |
Mam645AF | 45mm | 0.45 | 480 | 1.06 | 67 | ||
Pent645AF | 45mm | 0.45 | 475 | 1.05 | 67 | ||
Pentax645 | 45mm | 0.45 | 400 | 0.88 | 67 | ||
Contax645 | 45mm | 0.50 | 750 | 1.65 | 72 | ||
MamRB67 | 500mm | 0.65 | .1 | 2360 | 5.20 | 105 | APO |
HassyCF | 500mm | 5.00 | 1810 | 3.99 | 93 | ||
Mam645 | 500mm | 5.00 | .11 | 5410 | 11.92 | built-in | |
FujiGX680 | 500mm | 5.90 | 1660 | 3.66 | 82 | ||
MamRZ67 | 500mm | 6.50 | .1 | 2315 | 5.10 | 105 | APO |
BronGS1 | 500mm | 8.00 | 3760 | 8.28 | 122 | ||
BronSq | 500mm | 8.00 | 3760 | 8.28 | 122 | ||
ETRSi | 500mm | 8.00 | 3760 | 8.28 | 122 | ||
Pentax67 | 500mm | 8.00 | 3200 | 7.05 | 95 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 500mm | 8.50 | 1995 | 4.39 | M86 | ||
Mam645 | 500mm | 9.00 | .07 | 2280 | 5.02 | 105 | |
MamRB67 | 50mm | 0.28 | .88 | 780 | 1.72 | 77 | |
MamRZ67 | 50mm | 0.28 | .9 | 760 | 1.67 | 77 | |
FujiGX680 | 50mm | 0.31 | 1.21 | 1250 | 2.75 | 112 | |
HassyFE | 50mm | 0.32 | 1240 | 2.73 | 93 | ||
Mam645 | 50mm | 0.45 | .18 | 735 | 1.62 | 77 | shift |
ETRSi | 50mm | 0.46 | 490 | 1.08 | 62 | ||
BronGS1 | 50mm | 0.50 | 790 | 1.74 | 95 | ||
BronSq | 50mm | 0.50 | 590 | 1.30 | 77 | ||
HassyCF | 50mm | 0.50 | 800 | 1.76 | 70 | ||
MamRZ67 | 50mm | 0.50 | .9 | 954 | 2.10 | 77 | ULD |
Mamiya7 | 50mm | 1.00 | .06 | 460 | 1.01 | 67 | |
RolleiPQ/S | 50mm EL | 0.50 | 840 | 1.85 | RolleiVI | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 50mm FLE | 0.50 | 880 | 1.94 | Rollei VI | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 50mm PQS | 0.60 | 1600 | 3.52 | M95 | Super Ang | |
Pentax67 | 55-100mm | 0.60 | 1210 | 2.67 | 95 | zoom | |
Mam645 | 55-110mm | 1.50 | .04-.08 | 800 | 1.76 | 67 | |
Mam645AF | 55-110mm | 1.50 | 880 | 1.94 | 67 | ||
Pentax67 | 55mm | 0.35 | 725 | 1.60 | 77 | ||
Mam645 | 55mm | 0.45 | .18 | 305 | 0.67 | 58 | |
Mam645AF | 55mm | 0.45 | 430 | 0.95 | 58 | ||
Pentax645 | 55mm | 0.45 | 410 | 0.90 | 58 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 55mm | 0.50 | 1650 | 3.63 | 104 | shift | |
Mam645 | 55mm (leaf) | 0.45 | .18 | 520 | 1.15 | 67 | leaf |
Pentax645 | 600mm | 5.00 | 4800 | 10.57 | 49 | IF-ED | |
Pentax67 | 600mm | 12.00 | 6000 | 13.22 | 77 | ||
HassyFE | 60-120mm | 1.20 | 1520 | 3.35 | 93 | ||
ETRSi | 60mm | 0.42 | 520 | 1.15 | 62 | ||
HassyCB | 60mm | 0.60 | 680 | 1.50 | 60 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 60mm | 0.60 | 770 | 1.70 | Rollei VI | ||
FujiGX680 | 65mm | 0.35 | 0.9 | 1190 | 2.62 | 95 | |
MamRB67 | 65mm | 0.35 | .7 | 1070 | 2.36 | 77 | |
MamRZ67 | 65mm | 0.35 | .7 | 1060 | 2.33 | 77 | |
BronGS1 | 65mm | 0.60 | 715 | 1.57 | 72 | ||
BronSq | 65mm | 0.60 | 665 | 1.46 | 67 | ||
Mamiya7 | 65mm | 1.00 | .08 | 380 | 0.84 | 58 | |
RolleiPQ/S | 75-150mm | 1.80 | 1800 | 3.96 | M95 | zoom | |
MamRZ67 | 75mm | 0.30 | .24 | 1295 | 2.85 | 105 | |
MamRB67 | 75mm | 0.38 | .61 | 980 | 2.16 | 77 | |
MamRB67 | 75mm | 0.42 | .6 | 1700 | 3.74 | 105 | shift |
MamRZ67 | 75mm | 0.42 | .6 | 1660 | 3.66 | 105 | shift |
ETRSi | 75mm | 0.60 | 440 | 0.97 | 62 | ||
Pent645AF | 75mm | 0.60 | 214 | 0.47 | 58 | ||
Pentax645 | 75mm | 0.60 | 240 | 0.53 | 58 | ||
Pentax67 | 75mm | 0.70 | 560 | 1.23 | 82 | ||
Pentax67 | 75mm | 0.70 | 950 | 2.09 | 82 | shift | |
Pentax645 | 75mm | 0.75 | 365 | 0.80 | 58 | leaf | |
Pentax67 | 800mm | 8.00 | 6500 | 14.32 | 67 | IF-ED | |
Pentax67 | 800mm | 20.00 | 17700 | 38.99 | 77 | ||
Pent645AF | 80-160mm | 1.00 | .17 | 1010 | 2.22 | 77 | ED |
Pentax645 | 80-160mm | 1.00 | 1010 | 2.22 | 77 | ||
Mam645 | 80mm | 0.36 | .5 | 585 | 1.29 | 67 | macro |
FujiGX680 | 80mm | 0.39 | .77 | 1100 | 2.42 | 95 | |
BronGS1 | 80mm | 0.55 | 755 | 1.66 | 72 | ||
HassyFE | 80mm | 0.60 | 430 | 0.95 | 60 | ||
Contax645 | 80mm | 0.70 | 480 | 1.06 | 72 | ||
Mam645 | 80mm | 0.70 | .15 | 420 | 0.93 | 67 | |
Mam645 | 80mm | 0.70 | .15 | 235 | 0.52 | 58 | |
Mam645AF | 80mm | 0.70 | 300 | 0.66 | 58 | ||
BronSq | 80mm | 0.80 | 490 | 1.08 | 67 | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 80mm | 0.80 | 960 | 2.11 | Rollei VI | xenotar | |
HassyCB | 80mm | 0.90 | 550 | 1.21 | 60 | ||
HassyCF | 80mm | 0.90 | 510 | 1.12 | 60 | ||
Mamiya7 | 80mm | 1.00 | .1 | 290 | 0.64 | 58 | |
Mam645 | 80mm (leaf) | 0.80 | .12 | 460 | 1.01 | 67 | leaf |
RolleiPQ/S | 80mm/80EL | 0.90 | 590 | 1.30 | Rollei VI | ||
RolleiPQ/S | 90mm | 0.40 | 860 | 1.89 | M95 | macro | |
MamRZ67 | 90mm | 0.43 | .51 | 690 | 1.52 | 77 | |
MamRB67 | 90mm | 0.45 | .51 | 960 | 2.11 | 77 | |
Pentax67 | 90mm | 0.65 | 480 | 1.06 | 67 |
You can download Excel spreadsheet and make your own tables, such as sorting by weight or filter sizes and so on.
"Ron" [email protected] wrote
> The problem with Mamiya is that they have a limited > number of lenses (but promise more).
Once you start buying lenses you'll quickly realize that a very small
collection will do all that you need. You'll probably start off with
something in the 120mm to 150mm range then get an 80mm then a 45mm and
finally a 250mm. Those four lenses will satisfy most of the situations
you'll encounter.
I don't think the "limited number" of Mamiya lenses is a practical
consideration. Especially when adapters exist that open entire other
lines of lenses to you.
-Mike
From: [email protected] (Foto28)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Date: 10 Jan 2001
Subject: Re: Seeking wisdom
Interjecting my opinion here :)
I've had my Contax 645 for almost a year, and it quickly became my
all-time favorite camera. I shoot mostly landscapes, macro, and other
nature subjects such as flowers, etc. I treat it as manual-focus; I don't
care for AF and have no particular need for it, but the camera has many
other features that I just love. The 120 Makro is, quite simply, the best
lens I've ever used, and should be a required purchase with every 645 :)
I have the 35/45/80/120/210 (i.e. don't have the 140 as it's so close to
the 120), and am going to get the 350 soon. I'm really hoping for
something in the 55-60 range, and a couple of zooms would be great.
The system is brilliantly designed; I can't honestly think of anything I
would change or add. If you use flash, the in-camera flash meter is enough
to make the camera worth buying just for that.
Danny
[Ed. note: lens rental availability will also be an issue to many
folks!...]
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001
From: Kevin Ramsey [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] re: rollei rental sources
Hi Bob:
No, alas, no list of Rollei rental resources because there is only one.
The only rental house that I know of in the U.S. that handles current
Rollei equipment is E.P. Levine in Boston. Other places, such as Wall
Street Camera and Photocare (both in New York) will rent used equipment
that they happen to have, but they do not maintain a stable of Rollei
equipment for rental.
Kevin
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001
From: "Amr Ibrahim" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: pricing the full system... Re: Bronica SQ-Ai thoughts?
Robert:
Point taken, and your argument is very nicely said. I wonder if I can say
that amateurs usually build their systems slowly and over a long period of
time. The severity of the price differentials between systems are often
forgotten over time, particularly, if coupled with enjoyable use.
Furthermore, the fact that some lenses are easier selling than others
should also be taken into consideration; this is most handy in case one
goes overboard in spending.
I hope that I am making life easier for Art in her/his search for the
medium format camera.
Best regards
AI
Houston
"Robert Monaghan" [email protected] wrote
> it is pretty important to price out the whole projected system cost; a > hasselblad system with six lenses, for example, is going to be quite a bit > more than most Bronica systems with 6 similar optics, even if you avail > yourself of older used lenses, let alone new ones. You can also find some > surprises in "missing lenses" (see > http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/available.html for lens availability > tables) and accessories such as extension tubes that cost $500 and so on. > Conversely, the 6x7cm systems may be surprisingly cheaper than many 6x6cm > esp gs-1 vs SQ or RB/RZ vs rollei 6k etc. > > HTH bobm
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format From: [email protected] (Huib Smeets) [1] Bronica PS Zoomlens announced 50-100mm Date: Wed Mar 13 2002 Hi, Just found the following on the Tamrom/Bronica website: Bronica annouced a zoom lens for the SQAi. It's a 50-100mm/4.5-5.6 Aspherical design. Priced at approx. USD 2500,-- mhmm, now we have to wait for a 80-180mm zoomlens..... Huib.
From: Stephe [email protected] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Stupid 501CM questions Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 Mxsmanic wrote: > "Stephe" [email protected] wrote... >> That is one problem with a blad, you have NO choice >> in optics. > > I understand that more than a dozen lenses are available for > Hasselblads. My point was 'blad zeiss glass is the ONLY choice you have, not that they don't have different lenses. Sometimes you might not like say the bokeh of a certain lens or the way it handles, if it's a focal length on a blad you need, too bad, hate it for ya... Or if nothing else you have to learn to like it instead of getting something that fits your style of shooting. Some systems have various lenses that fit or can be made to fit easily so you can play with different optics. For example I can use the excelent OM 35mm macro lenses on my K-60 with a simple to make adapter. Same with using an enlarging lens (even easier, cut a hole in a body cap and use it on a bellows!) or some old school "classic" glass. I have a cool 1920's tessar I mounted that has a really nice look to it. I've been playing with some old 1800's brass lenses and they too have a look modern glass doesn't have. This isn't an option with a 500X blad. There are 4 distinctly different 80mm lenses for the camera I use and each has it's own "look" and feel. There are two different 150mm lenses, a russian 150 f2.8 and a schneider 150 f4 plus something like the tessar 150 I use. THAT is what I'm talking about here. >They are all of the same brand as the camera bodies. Common mistake many people make, not experimenting with some of the alternative optics out there, assuming ONLY the OEM optics are worth looking into. >Beyond that, I'm not sure that there are others that would >interest me in the foreseeable future. The problem is it's SO easy to say that when the "fringe use" glass is beyound your reach or is unavalible entirely. Like people say "A fisheye lens just isn't worth owning" when 99% have never even held one in their hands! I know I couldn't talk myself into buying a $6000 'blad 30mm but I got a 30mm kiev fisheye for $230 new and after playing around with it some, found it to be a VERY useful tool. The intro shot at my site was shot with one and that shot done with a 80mm normal lens (or even a 50mm) would have been BORING!!! I realise you just spent all your money on a new camera that you can't afford accessories or extra lenses for. Next you'll be looking for the CHEAPEST place to get your film developed! You don't want to hear how limited this will make your photography or that there were other options beyond "The benz" of med format cameras, that makes sense for working pro photographers but not people with limited budgets. It's a shame you missed what most people here were trying to tell you. -- stephe http://www.geocities.com/kievgurl/
From: [email protected] (Foto28) Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Date: 24 Mar 2002 Subject: Re: Questions about medium-format vs. 35mm There are actually more MF zooms that you might think...I'm not totally up to date on these, but working from memory... Pentax 645 has two (another recently announced, I believe) Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645 has two Mamiya RZ has one Fuji 680 has one Hassy, two I think Rollei, one or two Contax 645, one TBA shortly Danny Burk www.dannyburk.com
From: Stefan Patric [email protected] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Which three lenses for 6x6? Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 Mxsmanic wrote: > So I understand that many 6x6 MF photographers never buy or need any > more than three lenses: a normal focal length, a wide-angle lens, and > a long > lens. Sounds good to me, as I tend to feel the same way myself. > However, which focal lengths (other than 80mm, which I already got > with the basic > kit) turn out to be best? The very shortest and longest focal lengths > are too expensive, anyway, but the less extreme lenses do offer a bit > of choice. > > In addition to the 80mm, which seems like a good all-around lens for > me, I want something reasonably long, mainly for portraits or of the > occasional scenic telephoto shot, and something reasonably short, > mainly for scenics > and group shots. On 35mm cameras, I find a 28mm handy as the short > lens, although a 35mm is nice for more general applications; and at > the long end, a 90mm seems to be plenty (beyond that and the number of > practical applications diminishes rapidly). > > I note that a straight conversion of focal lengths won't work, since > the aspect ratio of 6x6 is so different from that of 35mm. > > So which lenses do you use for 6x6 photography, and for what types of > photos? I don't own an 80 for my current 6x6 system--Hasselblad. A useless focal length for me like the 50 on 35mm. My previous 6x6, Mamiya C220, came with an 80. It was either not wide enough or not long enough. So, when I upgraded to the 'Blad, I got a 60 instead. The rest of my 3 lens outfit: SWC and a 150; although the 150 was a compromise. I prefer the 135 focal length, that I had with the Mamiya. It was a THE focal length for magazine covers, classical and theatrical portraits, etc., but Hassellbad's 135 was a macro and didn't have a focusing mount. So, I live with the 150. It's just that the spacing between the 60 and 150 is a little too wide. Primarily, the 60 is my most used lens; perfect for weddings, when I used to do a lot of them; groups shots, PR stuff, industrial and corporate, architectural exteriors and for interior details and "corner" groupings. The SWC (or a 40 would be just as good) is for interiors, exteriors when there's not enough room to back up, industrial and corporate, and any use where a very wide angle lens is needed. The 150 I use mainly for people--head shots to full length, and for those times when a short tele is needed. Those 3 lenses enable me to do about 98% of what I'm called on to shoot with 6x6. For the other 2%, I rent or borrow. Usually, it's a 500 or a 100. Been thinking about getting a 100. It's a nice focal length for table top, aerials, scenics. -- Stefan Patric [email protected]
From: "G. Fenstermacher" [email protected] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Which three lenses for 6x6? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 "Mxsmanic" [email protected] wrote > Do you ever regret having only a single lens for the camera? I'm not the person who you responded to, but I'm answering anyway. No. Matter of fact, if anything, its helped me. I have an entire 35mm kit, but I never use anything other than the 50mm, unless I have to. I've had to ONE time in the last three months, with the exception of macro use which makes me swap pretty regularly. When I pick up a reverse ring, I won't even need to give it up for that. When I was (mostly) gifted with a 4x5 Speed Graphic, it came with one lens. That lens is ample enough for me. The only reason I will be replacing it is so that I get better coverage and can then use adjustments correctly. I bought a TLR on purpose. It gives me one lens. It was cheap, it makes less headaches for me, and like in the above examples it forces me to compose correctly, and THINK about the photographs I want to make. And work to make them. I think that's better. I think that's much better. I also think the way my photography has changed in the last six months with the advent of the first fixed focal length lens I bought has proven this technique is working very well for me.
From BJP Equipment News 29 November 2002:
Mamiya is to launch a 43mm f/4.5 aspheric ultrawide lens for the RZ67II series, featuring a slip on hood, an angle of view of 92 degrees(!), an internal focusing system, and a minimum focusing distance of 28 cm. The lens provides a 25mm lens on a 35mm SLR field of view when used with the latest 24x36mm digital sensors....
From russian camera mailing list: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 From: Bob Shell [email protected] Subject: Re: [Russiancamera] Re: The most expensive photo item I have ever seen To: Russian Camera Users [email protected] Marc James Small wrote: > The 1000mm Mirotar is still available at around $US 125,000 and the 500mm > at around $US 75,000. They don't sell all that many but, man, selling one > makes a salesman's day! Have they skyrocketed in price again? Damn. Just when I was saving up for a matched set!!! Outside of the samples Kyocera USA keeps for trade shows and occasional loan to photographers, the only ones I've encountered belonged to National Geographic (adapted for Nikon). Mead Kibbey used to have one of each, but I think he donated them with the rest of his collection. He once shot a newspaper page at some amazing distance with the 1000 and you could read every word in the print he made. Bob
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