Repair Shops and Resources [major update 3/20/99] |
Bronicas are professional cameras capable of thousands of rolls between servicing. However there is a case for too little use. As a guide you should operate the cameras at least monthly for a few cycles of shutter advance and firing on each lens. Film backs are of little problem in this respect. Don't forget flash guns as well, give them twenty minutes a month on standby, and do not dump the flash before turning off. Regularly used equipment does not need this practice. Graham Alcock AMPA ASWPP Galaxy Studios http://www.galaxy.u-net.com (quoted from 9/11/97 message on rec.photo.equipment.35mm) |
Mr. Michael Beard
(Email [email protected])
has earned the status of the being the Internet's Bronica
Historian thanks to his sharing of unique historical information on
these classic cameras, as in his
Bronica Serial
Numbers listing.
He is also the author of Michael Beard's Complete Bronica User's
Guide: the
Bronica SLR Systems from Hove Foto Books, St. Helier, UK, 1993, ISBN
1874031207 (pbk) - 160 p. ill. (some in color); 20cm., new Amphoto
edition (Feb.96) available for only $19.95US; Order from Amazon.com
The
Camera Workshop Homepage (Mr. Beard's Bronica Site - with links to
Bronica History and related resources as well as repair info and sample
quotes) I was pleased to learn that he and his colleagues in the UK are also helping keep these cameras working as a business too: |
I also run a repair service here in the UK with a colleague who was
trained in the factory in Japan before being shipped over here.
So if anyone has a problem with a Bronica of any age, please E-Mail me or
write and I'll see what I can do.
My address:
28 Worcester Road,
Uxbridge,
Middlesex, UB8 3TH
U.K.
Thanks.
Michael Beard
Email
[email protected]
[Ed. update: I have not been able to contact Mr. Beard online since
02/2000, so any updates on his status would be welcome...]
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998
From: Frank and Janet Marshman [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Bronica D, C, S, S2, S2A, EC, ECTL
I repair probably 10 to 20 focal plane Bronicas every month and to my
knowledge am the only one in the country repairing these on a regular basis.
There are several mistakes in my reading of your Bronica tips. These are
fine cameras and the reason there are so many problems repairing them is
that few repair shops ever got enough in to really become versed in the
problems they had. For the most part the repairs that I have seen done in
them are attrocious and wrong. They can still be brought up to a standard of
high quality, however there are some clutch parts that are now becoming more
difficult to obtain and will render the camera unusable. The ECTL has a
board in the metering circuit, (one of 5), that goes out and when it does it
leaves the camera dead. Bronica did correct that in the very end of their
production in a metering modification but these are not common and telling
the new design from the old is impossible without disassembling. Finally,
foam deterioration of the focusing frame and the mirror dampening plate
on the EC/ECTL are a problem for focusing and deterioration of the sub-mirror
stop on the early EC is a problem which causes the mirror to hang.
These are the most common problems of these cameras otherwise they are quite
fine.
Frank Marshman
Camera Wiz camera repair
169B Pleasant Hill Drive
Harrisonburg, Va. 22801
1 800 471 8133
Armatos Camera
Repair
1-800-628-6801
BRONICA S2 and C 88p. service manual.........................$25
Warning: For information purposes only, not responsible if you end up with extra parts and non-working camera!
Address:
http://www.fargo-ent.com/
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: Zana Holley [email protected]>
Hello folks:
It's that time of year when many of you are putting that camera into
storage. Here are
some tips from Shores Camera Repair for safe storage of your camera:
--Most importantly: remove your battery -- You might hear advice to just
turn the battery around. Don't take it. A short circuit could mean
disaster.
--Clean all of your contacts before a winter's worth of corrosion wears
them down
--Cleaning the mirror, the Fresnal screen and view finder (be careful
here, you don't want to scratch any of these)
--When cleaning the top: If you want to use a cleaning solution use only
Windex by name -- no generics, they'll damage the surfaces. Use an old
toothbrush to get off grit and be sure to wipe down with towel
--Finally, when all this is done, store camera in a plastic bag. It will
keep out the elements and protect against inadvertent scratching.
You should be able to do this yourself, but if you need any camera
assistance call us now or visit our web page at
http://trivia.gator.net/camera.htm
--
Shores Camera Repair
Expert Camera Repair by Mail
Toll Free 1 888 800 9431
If you insist on trying a local repairshop, see http://www.fargo-ent.com for a listing.
[Ed. note: this may be of interest if you need a mirror or prism
re-silvered]
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997
From: Terry Price [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Silvering Mirrors
If you look under "silvering mirrors" on www.metacrawler.com (my new
favourite search engine) you will find all kinds of advice and companies
that resilver mirrors. Most are for antique mirrors but some do rear view
mirrors, compacts and even telescopes.
Terry
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: [email protected] (Derek Zeanah)
[1] Re: Bronica EC TL Repair?
Date: Mon Jan 19
Chuck Hoffman [email protected] wrote:
LLKLODT wrote:
My newly acquired Bronica EC TL developed an advance problem.
You might also want to check out Camera Wiz in Virginia. In Shutterbug
they advertise themselves as specialists in older Bronicas.
Ditto. Had excellent service on the equipment I've sent so far (some
ETR backs, prism, currently has a 75mm MC lens of mine), excellent
prices, and quick turnaround (under 3 days). I can't say enough about
them.
No relation other than very satisfied customer.
Camera Wiz
Frank Marshman
169B Pleasant Hill Rd.
Harrisonburg, VA 22801
540-434-8133
How to replace the deteriorating foam on your camera by Glenn E.
Stewart [Ed. note: site dropped as of 1/2001]
Other
Camera Repair Resources
This is a short list of links to other camera repair resources. I hope
you find it helpful! If
you'd like to suggest a link, e-mail it to [email protected],
and Thanks!
Brooks Institute of Photography
C&C Associates
CamComp
Fargo Enterprises, Inc.
Fargo's Yellow
Pages - Find a Repair Shop Near You!
Foto Imagen Magazine (Spanish)
Gateway
Electronics
Stepper Motor Kit
Minolta
NASA's
Lewis Research Center
Nikon Japan
Olympus
Pentax
Photo Marketing Association,
International
PMAI's links
Photoshopper
Shutterbug
S.P.T.
Spokane Falls Community
College's 2 year AAS degree program in Camera Repair
Disclaimer: Use at your own risk. Inclusion or exlusion
of entities or individuals on this list is not
meant to be an endorsement for, or statement against, any products,
goods, or services related to
those respective entities or individuals.
For more info, please contact: Otto Roberson [email protected]
Cleaning a Camera
by Philip Greenspun
Where to Get a Camera
Fixed by Philip Greenspun
Camera Repair Experiences by Philip Greenspun
[Mr. Greenspun runs photo.net and posts many interesting photo pages.]
From: "Neal Morris" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: New web REPAIR site in UK
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998
Hi all
Book mark my new repair site for future reference. I update the site with
constant usefull information and offer a top class repair service for you.
It is at
http://www.morrisrepairservice.com
Best Regards Neal at Morris repair services UK.
ps please email me your comments on the site ( its my first ever publishing
attempt) [email protected]
Best Regards Neal at Morris repair services UK.
ps please email me your comments on the site ( its my first ever publishing
attempt) [email protected]
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998
From: "R. Peters" [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Rollei] Soft Nikkors on early Bronica
There may have been some soft ones (I doubt it) more likely some shade tree
mechanic tampered with either the camera or lenses. I had a Bronica EC
with a full battery of Nikkors and they were needle sharp. I sold the
camera only because it was getting difficult to find anyone who would
service it. The largest photographic repair shop in Seattle wouldn't
touch the EC. I am not sure that GMI, the importer, even services any
Bronica with focal plane shutter. I really loved the EC for the type of
photography I'm interested in (landscapes), but when only GMI serviced the
EC/EC TL, they had you by the you-know-whats when it came to pricing
repairs. This is one of the reasons I went back to Rollei TLRs. Get one
serviced and it's generally good for many years of trouble free use.
--bob peters
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998
From: Mike [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Hi Robert;
I just visited your site.....its GREAT!!
I thought you might want to consider adding me as a repair source for medium
format equipment. I was factory trained on Rapid and Koni Omega and Konica
equipment at Berkey Marketing, Woodside New York in 1973.
For the past 20 years my repair business has been centered on Bronica,
Mamiya and Kowa. From what I have seen there seems to be a lack of techs
for older equipment, Bronica and Kowa in general. I receive both Bronica
& Kowa referrals from a local shop who service Hassy and Mamiya. While
there are times that I can't do much for some older cameras I do everything
I can to locate parts and to help owners with their problems.
If you are interested I can provide you with references.
I can be reached at (503) 236-6109 or emai at [email protected]
Thank You
Mike Jenkins
From: [email protected] (Wilt W)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Bronica EC: shutter slow getting off
Date: 2 Jul 1998
The Bronica is
designed so that the shutter does not actually open until the mirror has
flipped up fully. So as a result, if the mechanicals of the mirror are in
need of cleaning and renewed lubrication, the mirror would be sluggish in
swinging up, causing the time delay you're seeing. With mirror lockup,
you are circumventing the sluggishness by locking the mirror up, thereby
allowing the shutter to open as soon as you press the shutter release.
--Wilt
From: Philip Quaife [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Bronica S2 needs repair
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998
Pierron wrote:
> > I have a Bronica S2 that decided to go south! Does anyone know of a good repair > shop somewhere between Dallas and Houston, TX, I live about half way between. > Thanks for any info! > > [email protected]
Yes. I have had my S2A repaired at Photography on Blad Mountain in
Davenport, California. They are very, very good at what they do. Be
prepaired to pay for first class service by waiting about a month to get
it back though. I don't have their address with me but they advertise in
Shutterbug.
Phil
From: Woody Kamena [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Bronica S2 needs repair
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998
You might also try:
http://www.photo-one.com/camerawiz/
I have three S'series bronicas out to them right now.
Woody
[Ed. note: I am listing this item (probably already sold) mainly for
reference to interested repairers...]
rec.photo.marketplace
From: [email protected] (A. V. Banones)
[1] FS Bronica Repair Manual
Date: Sat Feb 06 08:39:13 CST 1999
Bronica S2, S2A, and C Service Manual> Parts, service, tools, etc.
Published 1973 by The Society of Photo-Technologists.
Two hundred plus pages in a bound volume 6x8 in, good condition.
Very well illustrated scarce offering. $55.00 shipped U.S.included.
Al
From: [email protected] (A. V. Banones)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: Bronica Repair Manual
Date: 23 Jan 1999
For sale.......
Published in 1973 by Society of Photo-Technologists.
Ninety Plus Pages dealing with servicing Bronica S2, S2A, and C.
Profusely illustrated. Also covers accessories such as hand grip pentaprism,
exposure meter, etc.
Priced including postage............$45.00
Al B
--
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999
From: Todd Martin [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BRONICA] EC body repair Summary
For thoes interested...
I called Frank at Camera Wiz. They have a flat rate charge of $175 to fix
and tune up an older Bronica body. He says usually the turn around is 2
weeks.
KOH charges the same, but has a much longer turn around time (reported by
Michael Lewin).
Ken Ruth at Photography on Bald Mountain doesn't have a flat rate charge
for this camera. He estimates under $100 for what I described over the
phone. He also does some standard preventative maintenance on these bodies
(shutter cable wear I think). Turn around is somewhat arbitrary -- he
pledges to meet your needs.
Thanks for all thoes that wrote with suggestions.
~Todd
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999
From: Klaus Herrmann [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Found Excellent Bronica Rapair Shotp in Germany
Hi,
finaly I got an address for a Bronica repair shop in Germany ( Munich )-
not Tamron.
The person how runs the shop has a very good knowledge about Bronica
cameras - old and new models. He used ( I think he still does) to work
at Linhof the former Bronica distributor.
Zgonjanin GmbH
Fotohandel & Service
Langbuergenerstr. 2
81549 Muenchen
Tel/Fax 0049-89-68074849
I had several lenses to repair and I got them back in excellent
condition within one week at very moderate cost.
Please add this address to the "repair shop list
Thanks
Klaus Herrmann
PS: I own two ETRS(i) bodies with several lenses (PE and MC) and some
extra stuff.
[Ed. note: possible resource person?]
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999
From: [email protected]
To: Robert Monaghan [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bronica Wanted to Buy Ad
Hi Robert, thank you so much for your information and the time taken to
respond to me. I look forward to mails in the future, do you think anyone
would be interested in my dealing with the Bronica EC series ? (I maintain
and repair all of my cameras and specialise in making things fit where no
other can be sourced ie. use of SQ series focus screens, brighter easily
modded to fit etc.).
Brian
Hi Tan,
>hi, > > as a beginner in medium format photography, i am looking at the SQ-Am >and the SQ-A. does anyone has any comments or user experience with either >or both of these cameras? if anyone has anything to tell me about why i >should get one over the other, pls feel free to tell me too.
First Bronica has discontinued all repair parts for SQA and SQAM bodies
and their respective S lenses. I would not recommend buying the SQAM as
the motor is full integrated to the body and not removable. Not one of
their better designs. I would also not buy S lenses for the same reason.
The SQA is quite well built and can be had for bargain prices used, better
built and more reliable than the current SQAI body. The SQB is the SQA
with some features stripped out. Cannot use meter finders on this body.
Unfortunately you have to buy it as a kit with B back and B 80mm lens.
More features stripped out, no T function on B 80mm lens and no ISO
communication from B back to meter finders. Also no ability to use speed
grip or winder on the B body either.
Sort of a dumb move on Bronica's part, this body could have been a fully
integrated component in the Bronica system with very little increase in
cost at point of manufacturer. Someone's brilliant marketing idea. It
actually costs them more to make a B body, back and lens than it does to
make an SQAI, as they sell fewer of them and must make specific part
design changes, costing more in smaller quantities and requiring a
separate production line.
> my views for the moment: all modern cameras use motorised drives now. >there are people who advised me against the SQ-Am because they fear that >once the motordrive breaks down, there is no way i can advance the film at >all. but isn't this what everyone faces now? for eg, if the drive on the >nikon F100 breaks down, doesn't this also leave the photographer with no >means of forwarding or rewinding the film? so i have no qualms about >getting the "m" version, that is, unless it has a very bad reputation for >breaking down, which i am trying to find out if there is.
This is somewhat irrelevant to current medium format cameras. Better for
field reliability to have separate add on components. If one fails you
can at least remove it and keep working rather than having a whole unit
down for one component failure. Also more costly from a service stand
point to have all in one.
Like buying a VCR built into your TV. If the VCR ties your movie tape in
a million knots it is more expensive and time consuming to disassemble the
whole TV rather than just the VCR and you can watch TV in the mean time.
> also, does Speed-Grip S fits the SQ-A? can i assume that the speed grip >fits all 6x6 bronicas? > > finally, what lenses from bronica (ie, PS series) must i avoid at all >costs because of lousy image quality? conversely, for someone with a >limited budget, pls recommend lenses that are good for portraits. i am >thinking of a 50mm, 80mm and a 150mm. how does that sound?
All the PS lenses in the Bronica line are excellent optics. Have found no
lemons in their line up. They are optically as good and in some focal
lengths better than any medium format camera on the market and a very
excellent buy in comparison to some others at twice the price with no
increase in optical performance. In some cases at twice the price for
others they are not half as good optically.
PS lenses are a noticeable improvement optically over the S lenses as
well.
Service issues aside. The biggest failing of the Bronica system from a
service standpoint is that they supply no new internal shutter parts for
any of their lenses. The only medium format company that does not.
If your lens shutter needs one wear part or the main springs replaced you
have to buy a whole new shutter unit for several hundred dollars for lack
of a ten to twenty dollar part. You may also have to wait months for them
to obtain this component from Japan as they stock almost no shutter units
in the US. Another short sighted product support issue on their part.
They don't seem to find this the least bit strange. The public does not
really see these issues from a consumer standpoint. They are for the most
part seamless unless you have been waiting for months and months to get
your Bronica product back from repair and are wondering why. Well now you
know.
The next time you send your Bronica lens into the factory for service,
specifically ask them to install new main springs in the shutter unit and
send you the old ones and see what they say. My bet is you will get a
dozen excuses why they can't do this. They don't have any. Of course
they won't tell you this.
The mainsprings are made of high tensile case hardened spring steel.
With time and age these springs become brittle, weak and eventually break.
They have a direct effect on shutter speed accuracy and consistency.
This is like have the motor of your car overhauled and not replacing the
worn rings and pistons. The consumer has no way of measuring or verifying
this effect. When you get your shutter back from service you have no way
of telling whether the speed is actually 1/250, 1/200 or 1/160. Also no
way to verify if all parts installed in your shutter are new or used.
Since in most cases they do not return the old parts with your repair.
Many state consumer laws require that any service agency must return all
used and replaced parts with the serviced unit. Whether this be a
blender, a car or a camera. If you have paid for new parts the old used
ones still remain your property unless otherwise stated in a written
repair estimate and you can insist they be returned with the repair. Try
this one on for size the next time you have your Bronica lens serviced.
This is not to say the product is not a worthy one, but lacks adequate
service support. So rattle your sabers.
> thanks and regards. > >--------------------------------- >Tan Chung >[email protected] >http://www.tanchung.com
Best regards,
geoff/camera tech
2308 Taraval St. S. F., CA 94116 USA
UNDERWATER PHOTO/VIDEO SALES-REPAIRS-RENTALS
BRONICA MEDIUM FORMAT SERVICE & REPAIRS
(415) 242-1700 Fax (415) 242-1719
email: [email protected] web site: http://www.cameratech.com
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999
From: "Rainey, William" [email protected]
Reply to: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [BRONICA] disaster
Oh crap! I do believe I would have broken down and cried if my Broni was
destroyed like that!!! I can barely stand it when it gets a scratch or
scuff mark; can't imagine total destruction... and don't want to!
With that said, a local pro friend of mine dumped his SQ in the studio not
long ago and broke it up pretty bad. He sent it to the Bronica-authorized
repair place in Florida for repair and got it back quickly and in
excellent condition. The info is:
Greens Camera Tech, Inc. 1246 Ridgewood Ave. Holly Hill, FL 32117 Tel: 904-257-1366 e-mail:[email protected]
Hope this helps...
Bill
....
[Ed. note: a very satisfied owner notes...]
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Camera Wiz rated a 10+
Hi Bob
I recently sent a very sick S2 to Ralph Marshman after discussing the
problem with him on the phone. He was kind enough to take time to discuss
the problem (a broken shutter cord and bad foam).
Anyway to make a long story short.
The estimate was lower than the quote (much lower)
The work was done was excellent.
The camera was thoroughly cleaned and adjusted. It looks better than
new.
The packaging for return was superb.
Shipping charges were more than reasonable.
At the end of two weeks after sending it to him, I called his shop to
check on the progress. He came to the phone himself and appologized
profusely that it wasn't finished yet. He promised that it would be by
the end of the week.
Sure enough on Friday, the UPS man put it back in my hands. It is better
than new I am convinced.
The Camera Wiz is a real professional operation and I highly recommend
them. He says he has been very busy and I can see why. Give him a plug
somewhere on your site.
Thanks and keep up this magnificent site.
Jim Creasy
From Bronica Mailing List: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: Digest Number 471 Not having any local repair shops nearby that fix old cameras as a rule, I sent my S2 to Camerawiz in Virginia when the flash synch went kaput. Frank Marchman did a fantastic job and was extremely honest. Not only did he fix the camera perfectly, his fixit price was $100 less than what he originally quoted me. He specializes in classic Bronicas. If you don't find satisifaction locally, I'd definitely get in touch with him. 1-800-471-8133 Marie-otherwise knowsn as the "Bronicababe."