Medium Format Press Cameras
by Robert Monaghan


Graflex Minature Speed Graphic 6x9cm Press Camera
Photo courtesy of Greg Kent - [email protected]

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Q: Describe Press Cameras

Press cameras come in many sizes and formats, although the most popular series such as the Graflex Crown Graphic and Speed Graphic were 4''x5'' cameras. Most of these press cameras had limited movements, often with a drop bed design. Besides a 4''x5'' film holder, they could accept a wide range of medium format roll-film holders, as well as a ground glass focusing screen in many cases. The size of many press cameras isn't much larger or heavier than similar coverage panoramic or medium format cameras. Combat graphics were even used in WWII combat situations!

Lots of press cameras were made and used professionally, but many are still around. The design is such that the cameras were very rugged too. You can buy a press camera for as little as $150 to $250 US and up, including lens mounted on a lens board. Accessory backs are also attractively priced.

Besides the 4''x5'' press cameras, a number of smaller format sheet film and roll-film back cameras were made. Some high quality examples include Horseman and Linhof Technica cameras. At the high end, these cameras feature full view camera movements and flexibility in a smaller film format.

A large number of odd-plate sized and obsolete film cameras were also made. Some but not all are considered collector's items. Frequently, a back or lens can be adapted for use on these cameras, often at low cost.


Photo Notes:

GRAFLEX Miniature Speed Graphic 2 1/4 x 3 1/4. Nice little camera. It has a great exterior with a spring back and good ground glass. The focal shutter works. It has a Kodak Anastigmat f:4.5 105mm lens in a Kodak Compur shutter that works at the various speeds. It has a Kalart rangefinder.


From: "Jerry Houston" [email protected]
Subject: Re: Desiring medium format--help!!
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998

This reply makes it sound as if the only affordable choices are Yashica Mats (or their Rollei or Minolta equivalents) and Hasselblads. What you said about these is right on, but there's a whole 'nother class of entry-level medium format cameras that offer many advantages.

The MF rangefinder cameras, like the Koni-Omega, Graflex XL, Mamiya Universal Press, etc., can often be found in good "user" condition with a normal lens for $200 - $300. Compared to a typical 6x6 TLR, here's what they offer:

Much bigger usable negative size for prints made on any standard paper. Fits full-frame on 8x10, 16x20, etc. EASILY turned for vertical shot if appropriate. Most are designed to be hand-held easily, and have vibration-free operation due to their lack of a reflex mirror and their leaf shutters.

If the shot you want really DOES fit perfectly on a 6x6 negative, it'll fit just fine on a 6x7 negative too, with very little cropping.

MUCH better viewfinder that you can use comfortably at eye-level, and you can follow action with it. The image doesn't display backwards, and subject movement doesn't happen backwards. You don't get disoriented from trying to frame your subject and look at it without the camera.

Accurate rangefinder focusing that even works pretty well in low light. The viewfinder of an entry-level TLR can be pretty dismal.

Most of the 6x7 and 6x9 rangefinder cameras have interchangeable lenses. Of the budget-priced TLR's, only the older Mamiya C-series do, and lenses for those are large, heavy, and expensive when they're found in good condition. Remember, each "lens" has to be two matched lenses.

Most of the MF rangefinders also have interchangeable backs, and some are even of the magazine type, allowing you to change film in mid-roll without wasting any. Some even have sheet-film backs available, for even more flexibility.

Great shots have been made with Yashica Mats, old Rolleicords, Autocords, Ricohflexes, and so on. But it doesn't make sense to ignore all the advantages inherent in professional-quality medium format rangefinder cameras. There are some real bargains out there, if you just look around a little.

Dante A. Stella wrote in message ...
>
>
>By far the best way into MF is a twin-lens reflex. They have easy
>focusing, square (croppable both ways) format, and cheap filters. A MF SLR
>is a wonderful thing, but it represents a very large investment. The TLR
>has much less vibration and is easier to hold onto. The only drawback is
>lack of interchangeable lenses and backs. If you check Hasselblad prices,
>a back or a wide or tele lens costs multiples of what a Yashicamat, an
>Autocord or a cheap Rollei does. You should be able to snag one for under
>$200. 


rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: "Jerry Houston" [email protected]
1] Re: Desiring medium format--help!!
Date: Thu Apr 16 21:45:58 CDT 1998

James M. Cate wrote...
>
>What exactly is a "rangefinder camera"? Is this a twin lens, or SLR, or bellows
>type, or what? Sorry for the lack of knowledge about this subject.Also, is it
>correct that  these rangefinder cameras were made by several manufacturers over
>the years, and are available used for around $400. I understand that they may
>use one of the medium format roll film sizes still widely available.- What
>size?     

An optical rangefinder is a device that combines two images into one when it is adjusted to match the distance to the subject. In the very early days, rangefinders were sold as small separate instruments that could be used to determine how far away a subject was, so you could accurately set the distance on the focus scale of a camera. Some were designed to fit into an accessory shoe (like a flash shoe) on top of a camera.

Later cameras were designed with built-in "coupled" rangefinders, so that as you adjusted the focus, a double image seen through the viewfinder would appear to "come together" when you got the distance right. That's the kind that most people refer to when they speak of a "rangefinder camera."

Typically it means a camera that is not a reflex camera, that is, you do not look through a taking or viewing lens to focus, but look through a viewfinder instead. Compared to an SLR, a rangefinder camera is usually quieter and operates with less vibration, since there is no mirror movement - only the shutter blades operate when you take a picture. (Of course, SLR's have their own important advantages as well.)

Your other conclusions are correct. Nearly all medium format rangefinder cameras use 120 film, and many are also able to use 220, which is twice as long and offers twice the exposures per roll. Typical negative sizes are from 6x4.5 cm to 6x19 cm, with 6x6, 6x7 and 6x9 the most common. They're all 6 x , since that's the approximate width of the film. (6 cm is about 2 /1/4 inches.)

Many companies have made medium format rangefinder cameras, and some still do. Some were designed for amateur "tourist" type use, but many were meant for hard and critical use, by photojournalists, wedding photographers and other professionals. Some of the better older ones are available in good usable condition at very attractive prices today, and those are the ones I had in mind when I posted that original message.


From: [email protected] (#Louis Carey)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: MPP cameras
Date: 27 May 1998

Andrew Lawson,Forres Scotland ([email protected]) wrote:

:       I've just bought an MPP 5*4 press camera which seems to be a copy of
: the speed graphic (identical in the pictures I have seen. Can anyone tell me
: more about the history of these cameras, particularily the lense that would
: have come with it and the rangefinder camming etc...

: Thanks
: Andrew
: --
    For information about the excellent MPP users club write to:

    Dr. Neill Wright
    Copperfield
    Leaveland  
    Faversham
    Kent
    ME13 OPB

The subscription is 6ukp and includes newsletters which discuss use/modification/repair/technique/history the club also holds some spares and panels.

The press cameras are similar to the speed graphic, the technical cameras are similar to the Linhoff. Lenses were German or British . MPP also made Enlargers tripods and monorails.

regards

Louis


From: Marv Soloff [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: 6 x 9 Graflex
Date: 15 Jan 1999

Gary wrote:

> Did Graflex ever make a 6 x 9 that used 120 roll film?
>
> Was it smaller than a 4 x 5 graflex.
>
> I would love to get a 6 x 9 with at least front movements.
>
> [email protected]

Gary:

Graflex made several: the National Graflex in two series: I and II - in production from 1933 -1941. Nationals were set to take 120 film at 6 x 6 format. Then there is the 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 "baby" Graphics - Crown and Speed, designed for 6 x 9 sheet or roll film. These are scaled down big Graflexes with all the traditional Graflex movements and adjustments. These are the most common. Probably your best bet is the Graflex XL system. This was in production from 1965 -1973, eight lenses, all 6 x 9 film format backs, and both Polaroid and 70mm magazines. The XLs are still plentiful, relatively cheap, have great lenses and you literaly custom make a camera that suits you needs. No front movements however. You pays your money and takes your choice.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Marv Soloff


From: [email protected] (Peter Mikalajunas)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: 6 x 9 Graflex
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999

scott [email protected] wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>>
>> Did Graflex ever make a 6 x 9 that used 120 roll film?
>> Was it smaller than a 4 x 5 graflex.
>> I would love to get a 6 x 9 with at least front movements.
>> [email protected]
>
>Check out www.graflex.org for all kinds of graflex information. Although
>the movements are a little limited, you might consider a Century
>Graphic. It's not ideal (iffy film flatness, no forward tilt without
>modification, etc.), but it's certainly cheaper than some other options.

Take a good read of the Graflex site mentioned above. You will find that http://www.graflex.org/articles/XL.html the 2x3 Graflex has the ability to be many things with the use of rollfilm backs and a properly adjusted rangefinder. A good source of graflex equipment is Midwest Photo. Don't depend on the website, give them a call.

As for size, yes, it is an exact copy of the 4x5, but scaled down. They make nice users. Film flatness can be an issue with the "knob wind" backs, look for the "lever wind" backs as they had pin-rollers.

An even smaller alternative along this line, but with less features is something like the Kodak Recomar. Fitted with a Rada back, they can be a lot of fun... they less common however.


From: Alec Jones [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format,rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Graflok, grafloc, graphloc, graphlok?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999

I believe all the Graflex roll film backs mounted only to Graflok mounts. You can see both at:

http://www.graflex.org/articles/XL.html

True, the Polaroid mounted via the 4 pins, but the roll film backs did not [at least I've never seen them - I just looked at some XL catalogs and the backs shown were the regular ones].

Alec

jjs wrote:

>Marv Soloff
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > The Graflex backs with the four pins (one at each corner) are
> > specifically made   
> > for the XL series of Graflex cameras.  Won't fit any other Graflex.
> > More info can be had at http://www.graflex.org.
>
>    That's not the question. Are they not also used on the
>    Brooks Veriwide?


From: Alec Jones [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format,rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Graflok, grafloc, graphloc, graphlok?
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999

Actually, the order is this: the lens [Schneider] is attached to a focusing ring [Schneider], which is attached to the body which contains Brooks' name [not otherwise labeled], which is attached to a back panel [made by, and labeled Graflex] which is the part that actually accepts the four lug accessory. Graflex seems to have made the parts which actually lock together [for instance the Polaroid back contains a Graflex panel which has the four lugs attached].

There is no difference in coverage between the Veriwide and the XL roll film backs. The negative sizes are the same! In fact, other than the built in levels of the Veriwide, the XLSW is functionally the same body as the Veriwide. The body of either camera is nothing but a spacer between the lens and the back. I've heard the Veriwide backs were made by Mamiya.

Any back which attaches to a 23 Graflok will work with either camera. I would suggest that only the lever Graflex roll film backs be used because Graflex changed the design to include two rollers at the edge of the film plane for film flattening which the original, knob wind backs did not have. The two rollers definately make a positive difference.

Marv Soloff wrote:

> Mrtest wrote:
>
>> Marv Soloff  wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > The Graflex backs with the four pins (one at each corner) are
>> > specifically made
>> > for the XL series of Graflex cameras.  Won't fit any other
>> Graflex.
>> > More info can be had at http://www.graflex.org.
>>
>> Thanks, Marv.  I spent hours at the site. Very good information, but 
>>
>> not enough on the XLSW, which I think is almost the same as the
>> Brooks Veriwide (and absolutely different from the original
>> Veriwide 100.)
>>
>> ...which brings me to another question - the XL back is not
>> 6x9, but closer to 6x8 (rather 5.8 by 8).  Is it common for
>> manufacturers
>> to fudge like this?
>>
>> And are there 6x12 backs available for the XL?
>
>
> Re the Brooks Veriwide:  McKeown (10th Edition, page 104) says ..
> "wide angle
> camera using the Schneider Super Angulon 47mm lens [ f8 or f5.6
> versions ] on a    
> thin camera body compatible with the Graflex XL system.." It is not
> clear from his
> description that the body is the same body as theGraflex XL.  It might
> be of some
> interest to compare the bodies side by side to be sure.
>
> As to the standard Graflex roll-film backs, they were made in 6 x 6, 6
> x 7 and 6 x 9 formats (plus the 70mm RH-50 at  6 x 7).  McKeown lists
> only the 6 x 7 RH-10,
> the 6 x 7 RH-20 and the 6 x 7 RH-50 as for the XL series.  I would
> imaging,
> given that the Brooks Veriwide had a much different negative size,
> that neither the
> body nor the roll-film backs were made by Graflex.  A number of other
> manufacturers licensed the Graflex style roll-film back:  Horseman,
> Toyo and Cambo to name a few, so you are on your own as far as film
> backs other than the one that   
> came with the Veriwide.
>
> Glad you liked the Graflex site.  If you do solve the back mystery,
> please post it
> to the site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marv


Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999
From: Joseph Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]
Author-Address: joseph aracnet com
Subject: Mamiya Press vs. Koni-Omega
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format

In response to a query about a comparison of Mamiya Press and Koni-Omega....

I've used both of these systems. Both are heavy press cameras capable of superb results.

There are three main considerations if choosing between these two systems that dwarf almost all other considerations.

1. Koni-omega has interlocks, Mamiya Press does not. Interlocks prevent you from shooting blanks (eg by forgetting you've wound the film and winding again, or shooting with the dark slide in place), shooting double exposures (forgetting to wind the film in between exposures) or fogging the film. Shooting a Mamiya Press is more like using a view camera in this regard, whereas a Koni-omega has interlocks to help prevent user error.

2. The Mamiya Press camera was a significantly larger system and more successful in the marketplace so that there is a wider range of lenses and accessories available today on the used market for the Mamiya Press cameras. You can find 50mm, 65mm, 75mm, 90mm, 100mm, 127mm, 150mm,250mm lenses for Mamiya Press, but only 58mm/60mm, 90mm, 135mm, 180mm for Koni-Omega, and the 135mm lens is uncommon and expensive. the 58mm and 60mm lenses for koni-omega are the same optic, just different marketers used the different labels for the focal length. you can find an f/2.8 lens (100/2.8) for the Mamiya Press, but f/3.5 is the fastest for Koni-Omega (90/3.5). Ground glass backs for Koni-omega are pretty hard to find, and I don't think extension tubes were ever made for koni, or at least they are rare if so.

3. There are Mamiya Press bodies with rear tilt and swing movements, using a rear back extension system that Mamiya copied from Linhof. Perspective control and movements are not possible with Koni-omega. For macro work, you get the rigidity of an SLR on account of helicoid focusing, together with rear tilt and swing for controlling DOF like a view camera, making the Mamiya Press an interesting choice for large negative macro shots.

The above considerations lead me to conclude that the Mamiya Press camera can better support architectural, landscape, and macro work (on account of perspective control, back extension, availability of extension tubes and ground glass backs), and the Koni-omega is better for handheld work, candids, portraits, street shooting, travel photography etc.

I should add though, that for landscapes, you can only really use the 90mm and 100mm lenses with rear movements with the Mamiya Press on account of them having a retractable mount that is needed to maintain focus at or near infinity.

Hope that helps.

Joseph


From: [email protected] (jjs)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Mamiya Press vs. Koni-Omega
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999

(See Joseph's article)

Two more points concerning the Koni-Omega rangefinder: the film transport is a weak point. It does go out of alignment, causing irregular spaces between frames and at worst, overlapping frames. However, it is EASY to fix, and can even be done by the owner with a modest talent for mechanics.

Second - the rangefinder itself. Naturally, it can go out of alignment as well, and it can be adjusted BUT so it is not a do-it-yourself project. You CAN adjust the rangefinder, but according to a couple professional repair people many attempts end up screwing up the mechanism to an extent that it's almost beyond repair. So, a word of warning: if you find a KO with a whacked out rangefinder, do _not_ assume a quick trip to the shop will fix it.


Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000
From: "Arlo T. Dog" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Help, is there a 6x9 camera?

Linhof indeed made one, often called the "Baby Linhof". I happen to have one, and believe me, they are not lightweight, and a real pain to use if you are used to 35mm. It handles more like a view camera, with all the swings and tilts. They are very versatile, but not if you are in a hurry. They are also VERY expensive.

One the other hand, look for a Mamiya press. The Standard is the simplest, the Super23 has rear movements for perspective control, and the Universal can take a Polaroid back. The lenses are high quality, and they are not expensive at all. They are not particularly light or compact, though. And they can do 6x7 and 6x9, and also 6x4.5 and 6x6 if you have masks for the viewfinder and backs.

Ed K
The Thalia Street Gallery, http://edkrebs.com


Date: 15 Jan 2000
From: [email protected] (OorQue)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.large-format
Subject: Re: were there any 6x9 view cameras?

>The same price of a Galvin that I strongly do not reccomand (week,
>fragile, no accesories, no spare parts}.

I've yet to see a Cambo SC 6x9 priced anywhere near what used Galvins are selling for ($2-400)... if I ever do, I'll probably buy it. If you're willing to sell yours, let me know...

As for the Galvin's other faults, I'd say it depends upon the user ... I have had no problems whatsoever with mine over the years and because of its simple design, it should be easy to repair should this ever be necessary, up to and including fabricating any parts that may be needed. (If you are aware of any broken Galvins that can be had cheaply, I'd be interested in buying them as well...)

I communicated with Jim Galvin earlier this month via email and although I didn't specifically ask about the availability of spare parts, given what he does for a living these days, I suspect he can provide anything that might be needed, too.

Mind you, my primary use for this camera is hiking around in the desert, for which I find its small size and light weight ideal; for product shots in a studio, I'd also choose something else. Yes, the adjustments are a little bit fidgety and sometimes not as large as I'd like but the camera, with all three of my lenses mounted on lens boards, three Graflex backs, several filters and my light meter, together weigh less than 11 pounds and fit in a small knapsack ... in fact, the only real complaint I have is that the 5"x5" lens boards are too bulky, which is why I've adapted one of my boards to accept smaller Graflex Century boards instead.

JG


Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000
From: "Kerry L. Thalmann" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.large-format
Subject: Re: were there any 6x9 view cameras?

Norm Dresner wrote:

> Did anyone (reputable and competent) make a 6x9 cm (or 6x6) view camera?
> If so, where would be the most likely place to find one?
>
> (Yes, I know all about Speed/Crown Graphics).

Hi Norm,

Yes, people did, and still do make 6x9 view cameras. If you're looking for a monorail, Arca Swiss makes the F Line and M Line, Linhof makes the Technikardan and M679, Calumet makes the 23SF, Toyo used to make one. That's just what I can think of off the top of my head. In field cameras, Linhof makes the Master Technika (and older Technika models), Horseman makes the VH (and used to make he VH-R, 985, 980...), and Ebony makes a full line of 6x9 wood fields. I'm sure there are more. Point is, new or used, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding one to meet your needs.

Kerry
--
Kerry L. Thalmann Large Format Images of Nature
A Few of My Images Online at: http://www.thalmann.com/


Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999
From: "Kerry L. Thalmann" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: MF View Camera, is there interest

Bob Salomon wrote:

> Kenney"
> [email protected] wrote:
> > This brought back a period of time in my life 20 years ago where I needed to
> > use MF and could not give up the advantages of a view camera.  My solution
> > for that job and several others of a bulky and crude prototype of a MF view
> > camera that I built.  It was successful enough to have photos published and
> > then I moved and set the camera aside as it was crude but if there was
> > enough interest in this type of camera and with some serious changes in
> > materials and manufacturing processes that I did not have access to 20 years
> > ago I might be interested in raising it from the dead so to speak.

> There are many MF view cameras. From Linhof there are the Technika 69, The
> TK 23S, The M679. Arca has at least one model as does/did Cambo.
>
> HP Marketing Corp. U.S. distributor for Linhof

Hi Lowell,

If I understand your question correctly, you are trying to gage the market for a medium format view camera that you would design and manufacture. Is that correct? If it is, pay close attention to what Bob and others have said. There are already a number of medium format view cameras from a variety of well respected manufacturers. In addition to the fine, but expensive, Linhof products that Bob sells, there is the wonderful Arca Swiss that is a most versatile and complete 6x9 system camera (the system can easily be expanded to 4x5, 5x7, or even 8x10) and the Horseman VH (and older, discountinued models of similar design) that are similar to the Linhof Technika (but much cheaper). In wood fields, there are several models available from Ebony (very nicely made, but expensive). Finally, for those on a budget,

Peter Gowland makes a little monorail (about 2 1/2 lbs.) that is very affordable (compared to other new view cameras in this format). In the mid-piced range is the Cambo SF (I think that's the model designation)

Of course, there are also several choices in the used market, most very affordably priced. There are several choices in "press cameras" including older Linhof Technikas, Graphics (Crown, Speed and Century), several Horseman models (970, 980, 985, etc.), Bush Pressman, etc. In monorails, there is the Galvin, and Toyo used to make a 2x3 that was compatible with many accessories for their larger view cameras (although these aren't too common and tend to be pricy if the seller knows what he's got).

Finally, a very common solution is to just use a roll film back on a 4x5 camera. There are a huge variety of 4x5 cameras on both the new and used markets. They range from VERY cheap to ultra expensive and sophisticated. In other words, something for everyone. There are a number of inexpesive roll film backs that will fit any 4x5 camera with a Grafloc back. And for cameras without a Grafloc back, there are slide in roll film backs that slip in any camera with a spring back (just like a regular double sided film holder).

I'm sure there are other solutions I haven't mentioned. Those were just off the top of my head, but I wanted to illustrate a point. This is a rather limited niche market and there are already several choices from well known companies. Unless you come up with something that offers a significant advantage (especially in terms of price and/or weight, and/or features), the competition will be VERY tough. And even if you do come up with a solution that is less expensive than the current models, you will face competition in the budget class from the many choices on the used market. I too like to tinker with view camera designs, and am currently building an ultralight monorail for backpacking. It will be MUCH lighter than anything currently available (that's why I'm building one and not buying something off the shelf). It will suit my need perfectly, but will have limitations others may not be willing to live with. I have no idea how much it would costs to manufacture, but it's a very simple design with no exotic materials or hard to machine parts, so probably less than most of the competition.

Still, I have no intention of going into the view camera building business. It seems to be overcrowded already. If you want to go ahead and build a camera for your own use, by all means do so. It's fun, and the best way to get a camera that exactly meets YOUR needs. If you want to test the waters for manufacturing a medium format view camera, I don't mean to discourage you. By all means, do a little research, check out what the competition has to offer, and see if you can come up with something that has a significant advantage in one or more aspects over the others currently available.

Best of luck,

Kerry
--
Kerry L. Thalmann Large Format Images of Nature
A Few of My Images Online at: http://www.thalmann.com/


From Rollei Mailing List;
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000
From: Bob Shell [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] OT 4x5

I don't use 4 X 5 that much any more but used to use them almost daily and am pretty familiar with them. The Horseman and Toyo are good studio cameras from Japan. Pretty much equal in quality in my book and many of the accessories are identical. Toyo has much better USA distribution, though, since it is sold by Mamiya. Sinar is expensive, but very solid and operates a bit differently from most others. My current studio machine, which mostly gathers dust in a studio corner these days, is a Toyo 45G, a nice, simple 4 X 5 monorail.

I guess the two important things to know are just what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend. If you are thinking 4 X 5 just for the flexibility of camera movements, you might rethink and look at some of the medium format studio cameras that use roll film backs. Many find these more convenient than 4 X 5.

You could even consider the On Topic camera, the Rollei X-Act II, which is a sort of studio monorail which will accept a wide variety of lenses up front and the new style Rollei 645 film back (or a digital back) on the other end. In between is a bellows, and the front and rear standards offer view camera style movements. Unlike most 4 X 5 cameras, this one is very automated and quick to operate. I don't own one, but if I found myself back in the product photography business I would certainly consider one of these, most likely with a digital back.

Bob

....


From: "Larry Heath" [email protected] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: 6x9 used camera... Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 Back to the question at hand. Try and find your self a Maymia Press or Universal with a 6x9 back. I saw two nice lenses for this camera go for about $100 to $150 on ebay a day or so ago. I have one with a 6x7 back and I always liked the crispness of the photographs. Its a rangefinder camera with leaf shutter lenses, its big and bulky, but it might fit your bill. I'd like to find a 6x9 back for mine. Nice thing is you can change backs in mid roll, they have a darkslide, you can shoot 6x6, 6x7, 6x9, 2 1/4" x 3 1/4" sheet fill using ground glass focusing adapter. You might look around and find one of these camera's in or around your price range. Later Larry "Kamox" [email protected] wrote... > I'd like to try the 6x9 format without spending too much cash (under > $300)... is this possible?


From: [email protected] (Thom)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: 6x9 used camera...
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002

"Kamox" [email protected] wrote:

>I'd like to try the 6x9 format without spending too much cash (under
>$300)... is this possible?
>What should I seek for?

Mamiya Super 23 (takes back in 645, 6x6, 6x7 -- real 6x7-- and 6x9)
Mamiya Universal (same as above)
Graphics in 2.25x3.25"

6x9 chromes are really quite impressive and the Mamiya lenses are
quite sharp

THOM

From: Marv Soloff [email protected] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Graflex XL Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 I have three XL's, one with the Planar 80, one with the Noritar 80, one with the Planar 100. This is my second go around with the XL's, the first time I had them (25 years ago), I hated them. It is a "different" camera - not German, not Japanese - no specific feel to it. It makes great 6 x 7 photos - crisp, clean, vibrant. I use the Graflex RH-10 roll backs (with the flattening pins) and have no sharpness problems. The only problem you may have is the focus being too hard. Examine your focus tips (remove the lens, the three little tits just below the outer lip of the focus cone spaced 120 degrees apart). If one or more of these focus tips are gone, you have a major problem (actually THE major problem) with the XL's. Other than that, the cameras will function forever under use and with normal care. Regards, Marv Thom Tapp wrote: > I have been given a Graflex XL with a 100mm Zeiss Tessar. If you have > experience with this camera and lens, I would appreciate hearing from you. > Have you had good results? What kind of picture quality? Quirks? > > Thanks! > > Thom


From: [email protected] (Dan Fromm) Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: 64/65mm 6x9 cameras Date: 1 Mar 2003 Bill Martin [email protected] wrote > Ain't Graphics neat little rascals? In my opinion, one of the best buys > on the MF market. > > Bill Martin What do you mean, MF? 2x3 Graphics are on the cusp between MF and LF. On the one hand, they make negatives the same sizes as cameras generally regarded as MF. On the other, they have the stigmata of LF cameras and larger Graphics (same design, blown up) are for-sure LF cameras. I think of 2x3 press and, yes, view cameras as the smallest LF cameras. They can equally well be thought of as MF cameras with few modern features. Whatever category they fit best, they're great values and I'm glad I got mine. Cheers, Dan


From: "Richard Knoppow" [email protected] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format Subject: Re: How to shot LF handheld? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 "Maciej Ostaszewski" [email protected] wrote > Hello! > > In near future I will be shoting a rock'n'roll dance contest. I want to use > Graflex Crown Graphic 4x5, because it is ''rock'n'roll era'' camera. > > Oraniser does not allow to use tripod. > > I will use Graflex (135mm lens) handheld with attached flash. I don't like > flash photography -- Is there any chance to do sharp indoor portaits without > flash using handheld LF camera? > > I can't use rangefinder (it is broken), so I have to use ground glass > focusing, or use distance scale. Do you have any tips for fast focusing? > Is F16, prefocus at 3 meters, and powerfull flash only answer? What shutter > time should I use? > > I am looking for any tips regarding fast LF camera operation:)). > > As mentioned before I will use 4x5 Crown Graphic, sinar 135mm leQns, Metz > 40MZ-3 flash, HP5 negative, and maybe Polaroid NP55. Contest takes place indoor. > > regards, > > maciek > -- > Szybki jak [Romet] Wicher Actually, by the rock and roll era Speed/Crown Graphics were being rapidly replaced by 35mm cameras and Rolleiflexes for press use. In any case the Speed/Crown was intended primarily for hand held use. I believe there are some illustrations of how to hold the camera on the Graflex web site at http://www.graflex.org For late Speed and all Crown Graphics you have a handy body release which allows holding the camera in the palm of one hand or on your shoulder and bracing it further with the right hand, which also releases the shutter. Older Speed Graphics need a flash gun and solenoid to hold like this. However, you can still rest the front on your right hand and reach up with your index finger to trip the shutter. Since the camera is very well braced one can get surprizingly sharp pictures at slow shutter speeds. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA [email protected]


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