mentioning its many accessories. Nat Eddy tells
about rare DeMornay Budd SLR accessories for Leica SM and a modification
to permit reflex focussing with engineering drawings of it. I have an
article on the 1936 Argus A which originally sold for $12.50, a lens
test chart made from it reproduced showing 40 lines/mm, and a big
picture I took with it of a nice old car. There are also announcements
of museum exhibits and pix from them, by Steiglitz, O' Sullivan and
more...a long list of special interest and one make camera clubs you
never heard of, the trade fair directory and hundreds of honest
classifieds from individuals offering anything from a working Pentax IQ
zoom for $19 to a complete mint working 45 Super 'D Graflex outfit for
$1500, offered by famous veteran New England postcard photographer,
Cliff Schofield. They have a letters section, unlike Shutterbug which is
afraid of the criticism they would get, called 37th frame.
Camera-Shopper costs $20/yr and all copies are sent First Class Mail to
prevent the skimming that goes on in Shutterbug. It has 47 pages and is
a bit pulpy in its paper. Ads are only 20 cents per word.
To subscribe phone 203-972-5700 anytime, email [email protected] or write
Camera Shopper, Box 1086 New Canaan CT. 06840. There is a web page too
at http://www.camera-shopper.com. Camera shopper is pleasant relief for
what passes for camera magazines today. Best wishes...Ed Romney
See http://www.edromney.com
From: [email protected] (Eanss)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: British photo magazines
Date: 19 Dec 1998
I read Practical Photography every issue (I BUY it at Border's) The do have
international subscriptions, and I am buying one for the new year so I won't
miss an issue.
Unlike American photography magazines, if something is substandard, does not
work, or is just plain shit, Practical Photography will actually say so in
reviewing. American rags like Pop Photo are just adverzines for the major
manufacturers, everything they try or test is without exception something so
good that they clain they will be adding one to their own personal kit.
Another reason for the subscription: I'm tired of buying used books and
magazines sold as new after deadbeats like you have pawed through them all
day long while you're sippin your friggin Latte.
Eyaaa Enn
[EAN at Portland dot waterlogged dot Oregon]
From: [email protected] (BandHPhoto)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: British Photo Magazines
Date: 20 Dec 1998
I am interested in subscribing to a couple of British Photo
Magazines.
Try http://www.bjphoto.co.uk/index2.shtml
===============================
regards,
Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video
http://www.bhphotovideo.com
[email protected]
From: Darron Hartas [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Professional Photographers' Newsletter
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998
NEWS RELEASE
The Professional Photographers' Newsletter (PPN) is emailed FREE every
week from the offices of the British Journal of Photography -- the
world's oldest photography magazine (est. 1854).
It includes a weekly round-up of the top photo stories, an industry
comment, competition and hot sites list.
If you wish to sign up FREE please go to:
http://www.bjphoto.co.uk/index.shtml
From: "Charlie Rohloff" [email protected]
Newsgroups:
rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo
Subject: Re: Vote for Best Photo Mag!
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998
On the Island continent of Australia it is AUSTRALIAN PHOTOGRAPHY, a monthly
slick.
Regards,
Charlie
From: "Bob Salomon" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Vote for Best Photo Mag!
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998
What about the German one - Photo techniques International formerly
International Photo Techniques.
HP Marketing Corp. U.S. distributor for Amazon, Braun, Gepe, Giottos, GO
Light, Heliopan, HP Combi Plan T, Kaiser fototechnik, KoPho cases, Linhof,
Pro Release, Rimowa, Rodenstock,Sirostar 2000
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
From: [email protected] (BandHPhoto)
[1] Re: Camera magazines online?
Date: Sat Jan 30 20:12:23 CST 1999
I have searched for hours to find ezines with little success.
See http://www.bhphotovideo.com/links/photolinks.html#Ph_PubOrg
and
http://www.yahoo.com/Arts/Visual_Arts/Photography/Magazines/
===============================
regards,
Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video
http://www.bhphotovideo.com
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998
From: Richard Schneider [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: panorama magazine -Reply
Panorama: The Magazine of Panoramic Imaging, is published by the
International Association of Panoramic Photographers. The magazine is
published 5 times per calendar year and is available to current members of
the organization. It is not available at newsstands.
Panorama is typically 28 pages in length and is printed in both black &
white and color. Most of its contents are articles on all facets of
panoramic imaging and most of these submissions are from IAPP members. The
organization encourages its members to be active in submitting articles,
adding to the greater store of panoramic knowledge. In the most recent
issue ( Vol. 15, No. 5 ) for example, a selection of articles included:
Negotiating Prices for Stock Photography by Liz Hymans, Taking Panoramic
Pictures with a Roundshot 35 by Ed Westen, Lookaround Panoramic Enlarger
by Alan Zinn, Make Your Own Ground Glass by Ron Klein and Historic
Panoramas by yours truly. This issue also contained a great cover shot,
"King Penguins, South Georgia, South Atlantic" by IAPP member Roy
Christian.
Panorama also contains advertisements to help defray printing and mailing
costs. You may find that many of these businesses offer products and
services that might be difficult to find if it not for this magazine.
Among these might be "Digital Services for the Panoramic Photographer" or
"Panoramic Stock Photography".
The magazine also contains a "Buy, Sell & Trade" section where one could
find equipment such as a #10 Cirkut Camera or services such as the cutting
of 48 and 32 pitch gears used in Cirkut cameras ( both listed in most
recent issue ).
Founded in 1984, the IAPP is the oldest continuously operating non-profit
organization devoted exclusively to panoramic photography. We are also
associated with the Professional Photographers of America ( PPA ). The
IAPP currently numbers about 750 and is truly international in scope, with
individual and corporate members originating in such places as Australia,
Japan, India and Alaska in the United States.
One of the benefits of membership is the eligibility to attend the IAPP
International Convention. Held every 18 months or so, in either April/May
or September/October, these conventions offer a great opportunity to
network with other panoramic enthusiasts, see new and emerging panoramic
equipment and technologies, exhibit your work, and hear lectures on a
variety of panoramic-oriented subjects. Our next Convention will be held
in Quebec City, Canada from October 13-17, 1999.
Smaller versions of what occurs at Conventions are dubbed, "Conferences"
and are held on an ad hoc basis. On April 9-11, 1999 I will be hosting a
"Cherry Blossom" regional conference in Washington, DC. A special IAPP
weekend conference is also being held in Peyresq, France on June 10-13,
1999.
If you are interested in becoming a member of the IAPP, please visit our
web site at www.panphoto.com where you will find under the heading "Join",
an application which you can print out and mail to our address: IAPP, PO
Box 2816, Boca Raton, FL 33427-2816. If you wish to be included in our
upcoming membership directory, you will have to act fast because the
deadline for submissions is January 1, 1999. You can still however, become
a member past that date. If you have questions, please contact any of the
IAPP officers or board members. Our addresses can be found at our web
site.
I know this is far more information than you originally requested, but I
had long thought that many folks on this "chat line" might be interested
in becoming part of the IAPP, if they only knew more about us. Thanks for
your patience.
Regards,
Richard Schneider
IAPP Director
From: [email protected] (Stanley Greenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Contact Sheet: A worthwhile magazine?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999
Hi -
"Contact Sheet" is an excellent publication. It carries a wide range
of photography, black and white, color and alt process. The Center in
Syracuse is a great place for residencies, and everyone there is
committed to photography without compromises.
I should also mention that I've been in it, and that my book is a
member benefit this year. But I wouldn't be helping them out if I
didn't think they were great.
Stanley Greenberg
From: "TF" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Photo pubs that are worth the $$$
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999
In all the postings I've read on these groups, I rarely see mention of
photography publications other than Pop Photo. I'd like to suggest two pubs
that I think are really worthwhile. I'm recommending them without their
solicitation or knowledge. I'm doing it because quality publications such
as these need the support of people who love photography and want something
more than canned reviews -- with many exclamation points!!!!!!!!!! -- of the
latest products from the pub's advertisers.
Aperture -- four times a year, relatively large format (9x12) with rich
reproductions (B&W and color) of works by photographers in every area, from
art and fashion to photojournalism, from established masters to newcomers.
Started in the early 1950s by Minor White. Emphasis is on artist portfolios
or themes. Includes book reviews in the back. Advertising is minimal or
non-existent (E.G. the most recent issue had one ad on the back cover).
Ranges from $8-$10 an issue depending on your subscription terms (about $18
on the newstand). 1-800-783-4903, www.aperture.org
LensWork Quarterly -- four times a year, smaller format (8x7), also has rich
reproductions. Includes portfolios and themes, but has more emphasis on
text than Aperture, with discussions on topics ranging from the "act of
seeing" to the merits of digital photography to interviews with highlighted
photographers. They focus a lot of new and/or "unknown" photographers. A
small amount of advertising contained in the back of the pub. About
$7/issue for subscription, $9 on the newstand. 1-800-659-2130,
www.lenswork.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Decent Photo Mags
From: [email protected] (Kent K)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998
>Does anybody know of any decent, informative Photo magazines? Everything I look
>at just seems to be an advertising forum. Nothing with any real substance.
>Heck, I would be satisfied with just photos, with information on how the shot
>was taken..what filters..film..etc..I have seen several British mags that are
>very nice, but nothing in the US ( so far ). Any input would help out.
I recommend: Photo Life (Canadian) and Practical Photography (British).
Both are good but my opinion places PP over Photo Life in quality and
value for the dollar. When I was just getting into photography I made the
mistake of buying a few copies of Shutterbug, Popular Photography and
PhotoGraphic. Shutterbug is 95+% ads with little of substence. The 5%
that is article is marginal at best (IMHO). The other two seem to just
re-print manufacturer's claims as product reviews and they never see
anything they hate or even mildly despise. I'd say Shutterbug is worst,
Popular Photography is almost as bad and PhotoGraphic does get it right a
few times a year.
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: Popular Photography Magazine, Free for 90-days
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999
Popular Photography Magazine - Free 90-day Trial
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/515.html
If you're not already a subscriber, here's your chance to request a
free 90-day trial to Popular Photography Magazine - sorry folks, this
offer is good in the US only.
Popular Photography provides beginners, hobbyists, and professionals
with information on photo composition, production, and new product
reviews intended to aid creativity and enhance enjoyment of
photography. Articles cover color, darkroom operations, travel and
nature photography, video making, camera equipment, and buying guides.
Request your free 90-day trial at:
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/515.html
Other interesting titles of interest to photographers:
American Photo
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/498.html
Outdoor Photographer
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/512.html
Photographic
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/514.html
From: "John Belthoff" [email protected]
Newsgroups:
rec.photo,rec.photo.advanced,rec.photo.da
pment.film+labs,rec.photo.equipment.mediu
hoto.help,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.techni
Subject: F32.com
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999
Hello folks,
We just opened a new web site that I would like to tell you about.
http://www.f32.com is a new Online Photography magazine catering to all
levels of photographers.
Got a question about photography? Post it on our bulletin boards.
Got an item to sell? List it in our free classified section.
Got and interest in photography? Stop down and tell us about it.
Not interested? Why not tell some friends about us.
We hope to see you online!
F32.COM
http://www.f32.com
[email protected]
From: "Philip Dunn" [email protected]
[1] photography magazine
Date: Sun Aug 22 10:09:50 CDT 1999
Hello there,
Philip Dunn, former UK Sunday Times travel photographer and Daily Express
staffman has produced a new FREE internet magazine at
http://www.photoactive.co.uk
The site is already quite substantial, but is still under construction and
he would appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Philip has been a professional photographer for over 30 years and hopes to
pass on some of his experience through the Photo Active magazine.
Many thanks,
Philip Dunn
--
http://www.photoactive.co.uk
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Photo magazines
Wow! What an incredible site of links.
You missed a few: FOTO magazine in Spain www.revista-foto.es
And Australian Photography, but I don't think the latter has a web site.
I am a contributing editor with both, though have not done much for FOTO in
the past 6 months.
Cheers!
Peter K. Burian
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Canada's PHOTO LIFE magazine
Great to see so many positive comments. This mag is available in some areas
of the US too.
Peter K. Burian
for PHOTO LIFE magazine
www.photolife.com
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999
From: Peter Mattei [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Albro Resource link
Resource Name: Polaroid Corporation Magazine
WWW URL: http://www.polaroid.com/prophoto
Owner's Email Address: polaroid.com
Description: [up to 25 words, no embedded HTML, describe briefly]:
Great E-zine site by and for Polaroid groupies. Professionally staffed site.
rec.photo.technique.nature
From: [email protected] (CHIP5FALL)
[1] Re: The skinny on "nature" mags
Date: Fri Dec 31 19:08:00 CST 1999
The magazines discussed so far in this thread are not nature magazines but,
rather, magazines on the several routine areas of amateur nature
photography--albeit with many low-level articles by pros. To see a more
realistic spectrum, from very good to very poor, of nature photography and,
especially, subjects in nature, in magazines, one must go to magazines from
such outfits as natural history museums (Natural History, published by the
American Museum of Natural History is the best known of these in the
U.S., but
others are found in most major cities) or environmental groups of various
persuasions (the Sierra Club, the National Audubon Society, the National
Wildlife Federation, and The Nature Conservancy are a few of the better known
out of dozens in the U.S., and one must dig for gems like the Xerces Society,
which consistently publishes the best insect photography of any periodical).
Carl May
[Ed. note: I haven't tried this, can't vouch for it, but...]
From: [email protected] (LLKINS409)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.misc
Subject: FREE Magazine Subscription
Date: 14 Oct 1999
You can get a FREE annual subscription to
POPULAR PHOTOGRAPHY Magazine
by visiting:
http://www.morephotos.com
[Ed. note: you think it is hard to sell a quality photo mag now! Hah!]
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.art
Subject: Re: Stieglitz's 'Camera Work' circulation
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999
The circulation varied by issue and at it's low ebb, just before its
demise, the circulation dropped to 37 paying subscribers. This was when
Stieglitz abandoned photography for **modern art.** I gather that he
printed 1,000 of each issue and at the end was making trips to the
garbage dump. There were also complimentary copies of Camera Work that
were sent to museums, a few selcted libraries, friends, etc.
Cheers,
Gene Laughter
http://members1.clubphoto.com/gene46746/
From: [email protected] (CHIP5FALL)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Photo Magazines free??
Date: 22 Nov 1999
"I can't imagine that this [free distribution] will happen with photo
magazines, but who knows?"
Digital Imaging, a nicely published Cygnus magazine and the best I have
seen in the U.S. on the basics of digital photography, is sent free to
qualified subscribers. For info on it check out www.digitalimagingmag.com.
Carl May
From: [email protected] (RDD5TK)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Magazines?
Date: 08 Feb 2000
That is par for them or at least seems to be after following them for
the last five years or so. I've noticed something else too. It seems
everything gets recycled over and over again, things like Pros tell you
their secrets on how to use flash, use filters, pose models, push the
shutter release, etc. Maybe newcomers to the hobby need that but it would
seem that there are plenty of book stores with basic texts on this that a
magazine devoted to this same stuff over and over isn't warranted. Has
everything been done? Isn't there anything new to discuss except advancing
technology?
Date: 04 Jan 2000
From: [email protected] (CHIP5FALL)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: The skinny on "nature" mags
"Can you tell us where one might find publications from the Xerces
Society?"
The Xerces Society is dedicated to invertebrate conservation, but it
shines brightest in the area of insect conservation, with many leading
entomologists and ecologists on its Board of Directors and among its
"counselors."
The quarterly publication for members, which usually includes a half dozen
short, illustrated essays, is Wings.
The Xerces Society
4828 SE Hawthorne Blvd.
Portland, OR 97215
Ph: 503 232-6639
Fax: 503 233-6794
Carl May
From: "Dennis" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.misc
Subject: FREE Photo Newsletter
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000
New Photographic Newsletter!
Click Photographic Newsletter is a professional photographic business =
monthly newsletter / Ezine. The target audience is all professional and =
amateur photographers who wish continue their education through =
electronic means. Click Photography Newsletter is published monthly and =
contains news articles, photo techniques, product updates and =
commentaries from our readers. Periodically, we will publish articles =
written by leading professional photographers from around the world. =
Whether your photographic interest is portrait, commercial, glamour, =
landscape, aerial, product support, darkroom or any other field, there's =
something in it for you.
To find out more about Click Photography Newsletter, visit:
http://www.topica.com/lists/Click_Photo
Date: 20 Jan 2000
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: The skinny on "nature" mags
>I know you have told us before where we can find Natures Best
>magazine, and where to subscribe. Could you tell us again? I
>am going to pick it up and finally subscribe, something I should
>have done a long time ago.
Well, it is sold in stores but is hard to find. For info call
800-772-6575.
Subscription is $20. for four issues - a bargain!
Mention my name. I am their primary fan.
Peter Burian, Editor
www.wildlight.com Photo Magazine
Date: 30 Dec 1999
From: Keith Clark [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: PEI magazine
Photo Electronic Imaging this month (Jan, 2000) has an awesome article
on large format printing, and I don't mean old fashioned, limited
capability darkroom prints. It'll be up on their web site come April,
but you really need to see those awesome, unmanipulated photographs in
print.
The article give very sound reasons why a drum scan will give better
shadow detail than anything else. It covers things like "what film scans
the best". The author's opinions and reasoning surprised me a little,
and were pretty enlightening.
Check it out, starting on page 14. You won't regret it.
Look, I don't have any connection to PEI, other than somehow I got a
free subscription. It was just such a surprise to find such an
OUTSTANDING nature photo spread in a magazine most in this group don't
read that I just had to "share" it with you all.
Cheers,
Keith
From: "Zephyr" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: New Photographic Magazine
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000
A new photographic magazine is being trialled at
http://www.photographer.ic24.net/
The magazine requires copntributers for reviews, news etc
If you can give a review on the camera that you own,
pop along to the site and submit the review.
It doesnt have to be a camera, it could be any piece of photographic gear.
Visit the test site http://www.photographer.ic24.net/
From: "Debbie Ferrell-Smith" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Internet Publication for Nature Photographers
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000
I don't know if any of you have seen this yet, but at
www.naturephotographers.net
there is a new internet magazine
take a look
Debbie
Date: 29 Dec 1999
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: The skinny on "nature" mags
Here is a story worth considering when we get a kick out of bashing
magazines.
Back in the 60's, people liked to knock Modern Photography magazine. If we
had Internet, I'm sure our friend here would have lambasted it.
When I interviewed a top National Geographic photographer last fall, I
asked if he had taken photography at college. Yes, he did take a few
courses, but by then he was shooting heavily.
He was entirely self taught to that point - and he specifically mentioned
Modern Photography as the source of much of the info.
Peter Burian, Co-Author
National Geographic Photography Field Guide
Date: 28 Oct 1999
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Popular Photography magazine
A few days ago, someone asked about Pop's web site.
They are on aol at POP PHOTO. But I think you can also get them on the web
at
www.hfnm.com/aol/popphoto/popphoto/htm
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999
From: "JayDee" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: NATURE'S BEST Photography - Norm
Norm,
I spoke to Steve, the publisher of Nature's Best. Seems they exist close
to where I live (Mclean, VA). I asked them about the 97 cent part. Seems
like the MBA's have figured out that the 20$ mark is one definitive mark
in consumerism and either things are priced under it (as in 19.99) or
priced just below the next higher level . Steve assured me that if it is a
problem having to deal with the 3 cent change, they will gladly accept a
check for $20.00! Their address for subsciptions is: 1130 Bellview Rd,
McLean, VA 22102. Cheques payable to Nature's Best Photography. Seems they
arent yet set up to accept credit cards.
My 0.03 cents worth!
Jayde
--
J. Devasundaram
Epidemiologist
Charles and St Mary's County Health Departments
Maryland
http://www.JoyVision.com
Norm [email protected] wrote
> For the life of me, I can't figure out why it's $19.97. Granted, they don't
> want to make it a whole $20, but why .97? Weird.
>
> Actually Peter, we agree on lots of things, but not on many other subjects.
>
> Norm
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000
From: Ed Buziak [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Camera & Darkroom magazine
Hi Robert,
I'm trying to get my magazine "Camera & Darkroom" listed on a few sites...
I've launched my own web site with around 15 pages of information on it
(as of Sunday 19th March 2000). URL is with my signature :-)
Cheers,
Ed Buziak / Publisher
Camera & Darkroom magazine
[email protected]
http://www.camera-and-darkroom.co.uk
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: Popular Photography Magazine, Free for 90-days
Popular Photography Magazine - Free 90-day Trial
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/515.html
If you're not already a subscriber, here's your chance to request a
free 90-day trial to Popular Photography Magazine.
Popular Photography provides beginners, hobbyists, and professionals
with information on photo composition, production, and new product
reviews intended to aid creativity and enhance enjoyment of
photography. Articles cover color, darkroom operations, travel and
nature photography, video making, camera equipment, and buying guides.
Request your free 90-day trial at:
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/515.html
Other interesting titles of interest to photographers:
American Photo
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/498.html
Outdoor Photographer
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/512.html
Photographic
http://www.ncbuy.com/magazines/514.html
Date: 16 Oct 1999
From: [email protected] (Yaderp)
Newsgroups:
rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: New Photo Newsletter
Flash! The internet's premier Photography Newsletter has a new article on
fall foliage photography at their website! Go to:
http://www.geocities.com/soho/3759/
Yaderp
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999
From: Paul [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.misc
Subject: Check out The Penta Magazine
The Penta Magazine http://www.mtu-net.ru/penta
e-mail: [email protected]
Pentax equipment oriented photo magazine
New web page:
- magazine last issue on English and Russian (HTML ; color &b/w
PDF vers.)
- complete archive of all old issues (Eng.&Rus.)
- two forums for readers
- Common for all Pentaxians
- Sale-Buy (PDML'ers can sale not only Pentax equipment,
non-english messages)
- News page with our and some additional news (like Asahi press
releases)
Last issue:
- Pentax 80-320/4.5-5.6 lens review
- Pentax 67II Q&A second part (and first at Archive)
- Some advice's
- Pentax news (SLR MZ-7; 35-80 and 80-200 lenses press releases
from Asahi)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000
From: "Photomag.co.uk" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: New Online Photographic Magazine
Hi,
A New Online Photographic Magazine will be launched in May called
photomag.co.uk.
It is currently at a temporary address www.photographer.ic24.net
We are looking for reviews on cameras and other photographic equipment.
Anyone can submit these reviews, after all, who better to tell you about a
piece of equipment than those who own it ?
Please take a look at the site at its temporary location, it will tell you
where to submit your reviews and let you have a look at the format of the
site.
www.photographer.ic24.net
Look forward to hearing from you all
Regards
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999
From: "Norm" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Balian's "Outdoor & Nature Photography"
Bob,
You have stated the situation of WWW vs magazines very well. In addition,
information keyed to an individuals interests are more easily and quickly
found on the web vs a traditional magazine. By intelligent use of a search
engine a person can locate the answers a lot quicker than looking for the
same information in a stack of mags. With a printed mag the reader is at
the mercy of what the editors think is important (maybe only important to
the publisher-advertiser relationship) rather than what the reader is
looking for.
As you said, after a couple of years much information is repeated, often
time after time. After all, how times do you need to be told to "focus on
the eyes of animals. It brings life to the photo?"
Buying a few good basic photo books by good photo writers is money well
spent, whereas paying for reworked press releases, paraphrased instruction
books, self-promotional hype, and paybacks for "press trips" is less
valuable. With the rising prominence of the web one can get information
directly from the manufacturers about new products months before it shows
up in the magazines. Other sites are likely to give honest appraisals of
less than stellar performance---things you'll never read in the photo
mags.
To stay on topic with the subject line, with Balian's ONP it appears that
greater emphasis is being placed on "the photograph," as evidenced by the
fewer blurbs on the cover, less intrusive titles, and larger photos. I
don't see a great deal of difference in the selection of photos. IMO, some
are good, some aren't but that was the case with the previous selections.
Whether the editorial content improves or deteriorates remains to be seen.
A question I have but one that I'll probably never see answered is "Why
did Patch Publications sell the magazine to Balian?" "Was is not making
enough money?" " If it wasn't, why not?" "Did Balian make an offer they
couldn't refuse?"
Norm
Date: 19 Jun 1999
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Balian's "Outdoor & Nature Photography"
Balian's ONP it appears that greater emphasis is being placed on "the
photograph," as evidenced by the fewer blurbs on the cover, less intrusive
titles, and larger photos. I don't see a great deal of difference in the
selection of photos. IMO, some are good, some aren't but that was the case
with the previous selections.
He uses only photos submitted with articles. If he were to buy stock, that
would be different. But If Joe Smith writes a HOW TO article, and it is
illustrated with photos from a stock agency, would Joe have any
credibility??
Outdoor & TRAVEL Photography mag used to do just that.
A question I have but one that I'll probably never see answered is "Why
did Patch Publications sell the magazine to Balian?" "Was is not making
enough money?"
Well, Norm, here IS the answer. Patch was sold to Primedia who did not
want two photo magazines. So they put Outdoor & Nature up for sale and Ed
Balian bought it.
Peter Burian
Former Editor
OUTDOOR & NATURE Photography
Date: 19 Jun 1999
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Balian's "Outdoor & Nature Photography"
>ince there is such a huge turnover in magazine readership, most magazines
>concentrate on appealing to new readers, and often repeat the same old stuff
>from the same point of view by the same authors year after year. >>>
Some may. One photo mag routinely runs the same 16 page insert on some
topic (with only a few changes) every year or two.
I try to wait five years before submitting an article again, and then
update it substantially.
Peter Burian
PHOTO LIFE magazine
See also www.photolife.com
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: Popular Photography Magazine, Free for 90-days
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From Contax mailing list;
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000
From: "Bob Shell" [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CONTAX] vario-sonnar 28-70
Yes, we've thought of that. Problem is that right now the web sight
is generating no revenue and I like to get paid for usage.
If the Post Office gets away with their proposed 15% rate increase for
magazines this year you will see a lot of magazines get thinner and
their web sites get fatter. It already costs more to mail a magazine
than it does to manufacture it!!
Bob
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Best on-line photo magazine?
Date: 05 May 2000
Here's one that I have never seen mentioned. Digital Camera magazine
publishes its entire magazine in print AND on a web site.
Accessed from http://www.photopoint.com
This is an interesting concept that few other magazines follow. The theory
is "Why would they buy the print magazine if the content is available free
on the Web?"
I don't know the answer but most print magazines don't publish their full
article on a web site -- or not for months after it has been in their
print magazine.
Peter Burian
From: Keith Clark [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Best on-line photo magazine?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000
Well, image quality is better in print version. Sometimes ads are
useful. I've bought magazines from time to time off the newsstand just
so I could look up an ad later...
I do subscribe to a few, but I'm overwhelmed with free ones, most of
which I read cover to cover and then recycle (pass on to others). My
backlog of magazines to read is about a foot high right now...
My current favorite "overall" photo magazine is PEI (Photo Electronic
Imaging). They cover nature, studio, stock and digital (as in how to get
exhibition quality archival prints from the digital process). The level
of information imparted is first rate. Their articles do appear on the
web site but months later. Yes, I get it free...
I also find Electronic Publishing to be very valuable because it carries
articles on professional color correction and optimizing photos for
print. The techniques you learn there can be easily applied for home
inkjet printing (which is what most of us are now doing, right?) with
some thought and practice. Most articles are also on their web site.
General photo mags? Who knows. Does Shutterbug have a web site? It would
sure be nice if I could read their articles online and search their
database of past articles. Yes Peter, there have been some I found very
useful.
I used to think "Outdoor Photographer" was a good mag, but their web
site is worthless, and lately the mag should be retitled "outdoor
exploitation". If you subscribe to them for a year, you can cancel and
never again need to read another one because they just recycle the same
tired old articles time after time.
I picked up a copy of "What Digital Camera" and was astonished at the
depth of information available in it. US photo mags could learn a thing
from it.
PDN (Photo District News) is a good magazine, but not for learning "how
to shoot". Their website is very good.
Cheers,
Keith
birdvalley wrote:
> "Why would they buy the print magazine if the content is available free on
> the
> Web?">
>
> Speed of looking at home.
>
> I suppose person might try saving the whole online site for off line
> browsing. This never works right for me or I get tried of waiting on it to
> finish. Be kind like stealing too. That give you site owners something to
> think about.
....
[ed. note: some interesting points...]
From: Keith Clark [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Best on-line photo magazine?
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000
Paul wrote:
> > Topic: I guess it should be "What are some useful on-line photo
> magazines and
> > why do you like each one?"
>
> I have to wonder how long any of these free web magazines are going to
> last. Many are running out of money and the advertising and sales
> fees are not sufficient to pay expenses. Despite the mocking of "brick
> and mortar" businesses, there is something to say for making a profit.
>
> --
> Owner of the Pacific Northwest Photography mailing
> list at:
> http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/pnwphoto
Even though they're "dot com" and are free to the users, the profit
motive is still there. They are hoping to sell advertising.
However with the average banner clickthrough percentages in the single
digits...I can see why it's a challenge for an unknown to try to sell
advertising. They ask authors and photographers to contribute for free,
they're so cash strapped. Of course they all hope they'll have a good
IPO and get rich, I guess. ;>
I'll be glad to see the day when Amazon.com's market cap reflects their
earnings (or lack thereof). ;>
Anyway, I think what an online photo mag needs to be sucessful is to
build a community. You can't have static articles and such. You need
involved users who keep coming back every day or every other day to talk
to other users (forums), to share photos for critique, to even host
"albums". Build a community, and spend a few million dollars on real
advertising (print, TV and radio) to attract new users. Without an
active user community, there's not much point for the site. I've found
some good magazine sites but forget to go back. The sites I return to
time after time (beside the must reads like the wire services and news
feeds) are the ones with active forums and user communities.
Cheers,
Keith
[Ed. note: this list is from one individual's effort to mass unsubscribe
from these sundry mailing lists - may provide some unusual lists and also
illustrates the need to keep first info messages from lists on
unsubscribing - see http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/links.html for links
to mailing list subscription opportunities and mf/lists.html for medium
format mailing lists...]
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From COntax Mailing List:
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000
From: "Bob Shell" [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CONTAX] magazines
The magazine is Petersen's PhotoGraphic. It's been around for something
like 30 years. The Petersen Publishing group was bought about a year ago
by EMAP in the UK which publishes Practical Photography. They hired away
one of my best Shutterbug writers, Ron Leach, to be the Editor. Ron has
really improved the magazine since he has been there.
Bob
From: "Kerry L. Thalmann" [email protected]
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Good Photos in Magazines
OK, with all the negative comments I keep reading here about bad photos
in this magazine or that, I thought I'd try to get something started in
a more positive direction.
In the past couple days I've gotten a couple magazines that I think
feature some outstanding (IMHO, of course) nature photography. The
first is the Outdoor Photographer Landscape Annual. For the second time
in a row, they've really done a great job on their dedicated landscpe
issue, As someone who shoots landscapes, I wish they'd make every issue
a "landscape issue" (yeah, I realize they can't do this all the time,
but when they do, it's very inspiring for me personally). I've been an
OP subscriber dating back to the late 1980s, and it's issues like this
that keep me coming back. I always enjoy the work of well known masters
like Jack Dykinga, but it's also nice to see the excellent work of some
of the up-and-comers who are not yet household names. Heck even the ads
in this issue seemed to be more interesting to me as a landscape
shooter.
The second magazine I am referring to is Nature's Best. This, my
friend's, is quite simply, far and above the highest quality nature
photography magazine in the US market (I'd say finest in the world, but
I haven't seen all the others). It is not a traditional "how-to"
photography magazine. No equipment reviews, etc., just chock full of
great images of nature. In addition to the great photography, this
magazine offers outstanding color reproduction and uses a top quality
paper stock. It is a shining example of just how good a mass produced
consumer oriented magazine can be. If you haven't already checked this
one out, do yourself a big favor and pick up a copy. The current issue
is loaded with beautiful natural images of all types (mammals, birds,
underwater, landscape, macro, you name it). The only mystery to me is
why I'm still not a subcriber. I've picked up every issue on the
newstand since it debuted a few years back, but for some reason I keep
forgetting to send in the sunscription card. Not anymore, it's going in
the mail today.
So, anybody else like to add some comments about GOOD photography in
magazines? Not just photography specific magazines, but any magazine
that prominently features images of nature. I'd also like to hear from
people outside of the US market. With the growing global village
paradigm, it is easier than ever to get my hands on publications from
all around the world. If you have any you think are especially
worthwhile, let me know and I'll look into them.
On that note, just let me chime in with one more magazine that has
impressed me recently. About a week ago, I received a complimentary
copy of Agua Journal in the mail. This magazine is published in
Singapore and is geared toward the aquarium enthusiast. However the
issue I recieved (volume 35) also featured section on the Malaiu Basin
(Sabah's Lost World) on the island of Borneo. This is one of the least
disturbed ecosystems on the planet. The quality of reproduction in this
publication far exceeds anything I have seen in the US market. The
clarity, brilliant colors and quality paper stock even exceeeds many
"coffee table" books I have seen. Even though most of the photos are
taken in aquariums, they are very beautiful and the reproduction is
fabulous (the cover and several two page panoramic shots featured
inside). I'm not an aquarium enthusiast, but I am very impressed with
the detailed caption information. Everything is disclosed from the tank
dimensions to the lighting and filtration to the water ph. Of course
the latin names for all plants, fishes and invertabates are also
listed. Man, talk about truth in captioning. The copy I received was
the English language edition and the cover price was listed in both US
and Canadian dollars, so I assume it is avilable in the North American
markets. Not strictly a nature photo publication in the sense we
usually discuss in this forum, but still a very beautifully produced
magazine worth checking out.
Those are my opinions, let's hear yours.
Kerry
--
Kerry L. Thalmann Large Format Images of Nature
A Few of My Images Online at: http://www.thalmann.com/
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000
From: [email protected] (Mike Long)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Good Photos in Magazines
www.naturephotographermag.com
Mike
From: "Kerry L. Thalmann" [email protected]
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Good Photos in Magazines
Mike Long wrote:
> I agree about the OP Landscape issue. It keeps expanding and improving
> each year and this years issue is excellent. I have a friend who
> doesn't like OP because it's too "basic" or "simplistic". Yet, it's
> the magazine I've subscribed to (or bought on the newstand) the
> longest. I can always find something of interest in each issue.
Hi Mike,
I could take the same attitude about OP, but I prefer to see the glass
as half full. Sure, I shoot large format, so the 35mm equipment
coverage is of no benefit to me. Nor are the basic "how-to" articles.
However, every issue is packed with great nature images, and for me,
that alone is inspiring enough to justify the very modest subscription
price.
Also, one of my favorite features, and one I think many probably take
for granted, is the "Cover Shot" section. It's only one column wide,
but the cover shots are always striking and it's great to read a
description of the situation that lead to the photo in the
photographer's own words.
And even though the how-to articles may be old stuff to long time
serious photographers, as a practical issue any mass consumer
publication has to constantly attract new readers. The best way to
attract those readers is to teach them the basics of good photography.
Yeah, those articles seem pretty basic and maybe repetitive to someone
whose been reading the magazine for 13 years, but I always remeber that
I too was once new to nature photography and a lot of my early education
came from the articles and pictures in OP. I often refer to myself as a
"self-taught" photographer because I've never taken any formal
photography classes. Well, if it weren't for magazines like OP and
numerous books that have inspired me over the years, I wouldn't have
been able to teach myself 1/2 of what I know today.
I've kept every issue of OP that I have acquired over the last 13 years
and I refer to them often. Again, not so much for the articles, but for
the great photography. I like to look through the old issues and see
which images I still find inspirational after all these years. When I
find one of these images (and there are MANY), I pause to enjoy it and
then try to consider what it is that makes this image so powerful. I
don't try to copy the work of other photographers, but I do find it
educational to study great photographs and analyse what it is that makes
them great.
To this very day, I still remember the very first time I saw OP on the
newstand. Although I moved many years ago, I still remember exactly
where it was (a small mom-n-pop drug store) and which issue (I still
have it). I bought that issue, took it home and it quite literally
changed my life. I know that sounds a bit dramatic, but it is true.
That first issue was the first time I'd seen the work of David Meunch.
About the same time I discovered the work of Pat O'Hara. Seeing such
beautiful images inspired me to try and create some of my own. It is no
coincidence that about a year and a half later I acquired my first large
format camera and started seriously pursuing nature photography. For
that reason alone, I will always be a big supporter of OP.
Kerry
--
Kerry L. Thalmann Large Format Images of Nature
A Few of My Images Online at: http://www.thalmann.com/
From: Liz Leyden [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000
Subject: Re: Good Photos in Magazines
"Kerry L. Thalmann"
[email protected] wrote:
> So, anybody else like to add some comments about GOOD photography in
> magazines? Not just photography specific magazines, but any magazine
> that prominently features images of nature. I'd also like to hear from
> people outside of the US market. With the growing global village
> paradigm, it is easier than ever to get my hands on publications from
> all around the world. If you have any you think are especially
> worthwhile, let me know and I'll look into them.
BBC Wildlife magazine is a magazine about *wild*life (international in
scope) with extremely high production and photographic values. Although it
is not specifically a photography magazine, it often has a photo hints
page on one particular topic, photo competitions of various sorts, and the
annual Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition, which is by far the
most prestigious competion in the UK to get images accepted into.
It must be available in the States, as plenty of American photographers
feature in the competition.
Liz
[Ed. note: the following announcement may be of interest, quoted from
email...]
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000
From: NYI-Update [email protected]
Subject: Breaking News from NYI's Photo Website
.....
ANNOUNCING @PHOTO, the free on-line magazine from NYI's Internet
division, http://www.photocourses.com. That's right, just point your
browser toward http://www.photocourses.com
and you'll find @PHOTO
right on the photocourses home page. In the premier edition, you'll find
lots of interesting information: PRODUCT REVIEWS including one of the
new digital SLRs and a new film from Fuji, DIGITAL DIARY with the
lowdown on battery use in digital cameras, PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUNDERS,
the basics of what you need to know about the tools we use to capture
the world around us, along with TRAVELING PHOTOGRAPHER, TIPS FOR BETTER
PHOTOS and much, much more.
[Ed. note: a photomag with online reviews by users...]
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000
From: Tony [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Review
Hi'
Saw your camera review.
Please visit www.photomag.co.uk and consider submitting to the reviews
page
Regards
Tony (editor of Photomag)
Web: www.photomag.co.uk
E-Mail: [email protected]
Photomag, your one stop photographic resource centre.
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Camera & Darkroom magazine
Hey all, The former US published Darkroom & Creative Camera Techniques was
sold several years ago but is still published, now under the name Photo
Techniques. It is in its 21st volume and is puiblished bi-monthly . Its
still a good magazine with the focus still on large camera tecniques but
with perhaps a bit broader coverage than it once had including some
coverage of digital photo techniques. A subscription is 22.95 per year.
Phone number (800) 877-5410 or e-mail [email protected]. I read
it and always learn something from it. Its quite different than
Shutterbug, which I also get, and certainly, from Popular Photography,
which I do not get
RRamey.
[Ed. note: recommended and worth visiting...]
Date: 31 Aug 2000
From: [email protected] (PBurian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: New articles at photopoint.com
A new set of articles has just been published at the magazine at
http://www.photopoint.com/community/magazine
Including mine on Utah, Bob Krist's on problem-solving in travel
photography,
and Nancy Rotenberg's on Fall Colors photography.
Peter Burian, Managing Editor
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000
From: John Hicks [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Camera & Darkroom magazine
you wrote:
>is/was Darkroom and Camera Techniques.
Now _Photo Techniques_, just a name change, was _Darkroom and Creative
Camera Techniques_. Not to be confused with a magazine published in the UK
with almost the same name, _Photo Technique_ I believe.
The American _Camera & Darkroom_ mag stopped publication several years
ago.
John Hicks
[email protected]
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000
From: Nathan Wajsman [email protected]
Subject: [Rollei] Camera & Darkroom magazine
I have just finished reading a sample issue of the Camera & Darkroom
magazine, published by Ed Buziak in the UK. It is a high-quality
magazine devoted to traditional darkroom work (there appears to be equal
emphasis on film and paper processing techniques). Its quality belies
the limited resources Ed has at his disposal. Check out the magazine at:
http://www.camera-and-darkroom.co.uk
Nathan
--
Nathan Wajsman
Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland
e-mail: [email protected]
From Minolta Mailing List:
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Beginner bird photography
I thought I would pass this along after following the thread:
We are excited to announce that Arthur Morris, bird photographer
extraordinaire, and Canon contract photographer, will be writing the
column "Birds As Art Online." Art will offer a variety of tips and
thoughts, some specifically related to bird photography, and some
which are applicable to many aspects of outdoor photography.
The first article in this column offers many tips for using a Wimberley
tripod head with both long telephoto lenses and short noncollared lenses.
http://www.wildlight.com/columns/birds_as_art/2000/08/20/index.html
Jim Steel, Detroit
From Minolta Mailing List:
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Geo Lepp's Newsletter
George Lepp's website can be found at: George Lepp presents: outdoor, wildlife, digital, and nature photography
Just received his Vol.16 #2 issue and here are some of his
recommendations:
Slide Film:
Kodak's E100VS for all but people photos' then he uses Kodak E100S.
Also regularly pushes Kodak's E200 to 400 ISO.
Also Fuji Velvia: uses but dislikes the limitation of 40 ISO.
Likes Fujichrome MS 100/1000 but limits it to 800 ISO maximum.
Print Film:
Kodak Supra in 100,400 & 800 ISO ratings.
Hasn't used any Fuji print films in years.
Likes the new Kodak Black & White (C-41 processing) film.
Macro Lenses:
Prefers the 90-105mm range. Good all around. Uses Teleconvertors with
them.
Best Budget Telephoto lens is Sigma's 400mm f/5.6 Macro. Says is sharp
enough for professional use.
Having said all of that he admits to being a Canon fan but also
appreciates Nikon. He prefers Carbon Tripods but warns against crashing
them against rocks or slamming car doors on them as they splinter quite
easily.
One point he brought out about Canon's (and now Nikon's) use of Image
Stabilizing lenses is they also dampen camera mirror vibrations. I had
never thought of that before, but it stands to reason.
He also has a preference for the Cokin (imported by Minolta-keep on topic)
P Series Lens Holding System. And uses various slide in filters. He goes
much more in detail about these and other subjects, but I thought it would
interest some as to just what the "real well known pro's" use, in the
field.
Later,
Bill B. (USA)
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000
From: Niels Vandrup [email protected]
Subject: [Rollei] OT: more GRUMP
If anyone wants to know, I just found out that David Vestal still
publishes GRUMP. It can be ordered at:
David Vestal
PO Box 309
Bethlehem, CT 06571-0309
$30 for six issues
Niels
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000
From: Tony Polson [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Best Photography magazine?
"Peter Steeper" [email protected] wrote:
> I read Practical Photography which is a British magazine. It has far more
> editorial pages and less advertising pages than an American magazine. They
> do extensive and detailed testing on film and equipment. It costs more but
> you get your monies worth.
I disagree. I have found that the reviews in "Practical Photography"
are less objective and reliable than I would like.
In UK magazines, I am more inclined to trust "Amateur Photographer"
because they are less dependent on advertising revenue from
manufacturers of new equipment. They can afford to be critical because
a high proportion of their advertising income comes from dealers
advertising used equipment.
If you want a UK magazine about landscape, nature and cityscape
photography (rather than equipment) try the superb "Outdoor
Photographer". This title was new in 2000 and sets high standards for
copy and quality of reproduction.
If you want a UK magazine about working in photography and the truth
behind the manufacturers' hype (especially the myths about digital
cameras) try the frank and forthright "British Journal of Photography".
There are no digital (or any other) sycophants allowed on its pages,
which fact alone is a strong encouragement to subscribe.
Hope this helps.
--
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
From Nikon Mailing List:
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000
From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video [email protected]
Subject: [NIKON] Re: Nikon Magazine
you wrote:
>Everyone is talking about Nikon Magazine going under. Is that the same
>magazine that is printed in the USA too? I subscribed to the official
>USA version.
No. The magazine which has ceased publication is
http://www.nikon-magazine.com/. The USA magazine is Nikon World --
http://www.Nikonworld.com/.
- --
regards,
Henry Posner
Director of Sales and Training
B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000
From: Marc James Small [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Film Flatness
Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter) wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone else has heard of anything that relates to these
>findings?
Sure. It was in CAMERA LENS NEWS, a Zeiss publication, and I have been
told that a fuller article will appear in INNOVATIONS, another Zeiss
publication (the successer to the ZEISS INFORMATION and JENA REVIEW
magazines).
CAMERA LENS NEWS is a freebie and all List Members are encouraged to
subscribe. Contact information is the editor, the noted Kornelius J
Fleischer at . I am uncertain how to subscribe to
INNOVATIONS (I have been recieving it and its predecessors for years) but,
perhaps, an e-mail to the editor, Gudrun Vogel, at
might do some good. But, pray, be warned that INNOVATIONS is relatively
technical.
Marc
[email protected]
[Ed. note: Thanks for this handy tip and link to online photo mag
resources and articles!...]
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000
From: [email protected]
To: Robert Monaghan [email protected]
Subject: Film Flatness
Hiya Bob,
Have you seen the article on rollfilm flatness in this
summer's edition (no 10) of Zeiss's Camera Lens News?
Go to
http://www.zeiss.de/de/photo/home_e.nsf/allBySubject/Launch+-+Zeiss-engl+JavaNavigator
Then click on
Products
Camera and Cine Lenses
News
Camera Lens News -- Archives
Camera Lens News No. 10
Is rollfilm 220 better than 120 in terms of film flatness?
Later,
Owl
Dr John Owlett
Senior Internet Security Consultant, IBM Global Services
[email protected] http://www.ibm.com/security/services/
[Ed. note: on the angst of learning photo-magazine "speak"...]
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000
From: [email protected] (Gene Windell)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: why so few bad reviews Re: Photo Mags.
[email protected] (PBurian) wrote:
>>Why don't you say "this piece
>>of equipment is better than that one,
>
>When testing consumer grade lenses, I say just that. An excerpt from one of my
>Reviews of an **affordable** ultra wide zoom and my suggestions that some
>readers would be better off with its more expensive counterpart:
Who equips the beginning photographer with the dictionary that defines
"consumer grade" and "affordable" with their true meanings of
"inferior" or "sub-par?" By couching the truth in code words, you
deny the truth from those who need it the most.
>---------------------------------------------------------
>"Photojournalists may prefer the xxx PRO f/2.8 model because of its very wide
>maximum aperture, beneficial in low light situations where flash is not
>permitted. That PRO lens boasts even more rugged construction plus two
>aspherical elements for outstanding performance even at the widest apertures:
>in terms of edge-to-edge sharpness, even illumination across the frame, and
>superior correction for aberrations and distortion.
By using the word "photojournalists," you're implying that fast lens
apertures are not a good investment for amateur or casual shooters.
You're implying that "non-photojournalists" should be satisfied with
the "red-eye syndrome" and "deer-caught-in-the-headlights" look of
their snapshots made with the camera's built-in flash, while only
"pros" could appreciate the effects produced by fast lenses, fast film
and available light. Beginners have no need for rugged construction
or edge-to-edge sharpness? What you're doing is helping the
manufacturers find a market for junk - naive neophytes who don't know
any better. Or if not junk, let's call it equipment that does a good
job of producing pictures that are not very good.
Everyday, newbies come to this newsgroup looking for advice on how to
overcome the limitations and shortfalls of the equipment that you
induced them to buy - couching the truth in code words and tongue-in-
cheek platitudes that beginners have no hope of understanding, until
after it is too late.
The manufacturers will produce whatever they can find a market for,
and they can't be faulted for that. It is the magazine equipment
reviewers that create the market for crippled, poorly performing
equipment - the beginner who is deluded into believing that he doesn't
deserve flawless image quality as much as a "pro."
The manufacturers benefit by selling crippled cameras (and lenses) to
beginners because when the inadequacies become evident, the buyer is
right back into the market buying a more capable piece of equipment.
So the manufacturers get to sell the beginner 2 items instead of just
1. The magazine reviewers play a vital role in perpetuating this
subtle fraud.
You've made it possible for an "experienced photographer" to be
defined as one who can "read between the lines" of magazine equipment
reviews, decipher the code words, solve the riddles, and recognize
equipment that has been "damned by faint praise."
I see no way that the ethics of a magazine equipment reviewer are any
different than a used car dealer or a snake oil salesman. Personally,
I don't condemn anyone for what they do to earn money. All of God's
children need to buy groceries. But you should not be surprised when
experienced photographers say "better him than me," or "there, but for
the grace of God, go I."
A photo magazine equipment reviewer can expect that some readers will
trust him, some will admire him, and others will pity him. But as
MeatLoaf once sang, "two outta three ain't bad."
From Minolta Mailing List;
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000
From: [email protected]
Subject: Ezine
For those interested the January 2001 issue of the Nature Photographers
Online Magazine is out. It's quite a nice publication and, oh yes, it's
FREE.
Stop in and browse around.
http://naturephotographers.net/index.html
Nature Photographers
Online Magazine - Nature Photography, Wildlife
Photography and Photography Instruction
Later,
Bill B. (USA)
[Ed. note: one of my favorite mags too..]
From Manual Minolta Mailing LIst;
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001
From: "Justin Bailey" [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sydney shops, new MD 35mm/2.8, etc.
....
I also collect the Minolta Mirror (and any other Minolta literature). It's
one of the best, most beautifully produced photo annuals in the world.
Publication was from 1975 to 1993, that's the last issue I have. Before
and after that, it was a scaled-down news-letter type of thing, not a
heavy-stock magazine. If only Minolta could see the value in doing it
once more. The best person to talk to about the Mirror is David
Kilpatrick, who is on the general Minolta eGroups list but I think not
this one. He was and is very involved in that and other official
publications, and will be only too glad to give you the story.
---
Justin "RED" Bailey
[email protected]
From Minolta Mailing List;
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001
From: Peter Blaise Monahon [email protected]
Subject: Re: Photo Tips
> ... "Fotofax" The Newsletter of the Northern
> Virginia Photographic Society ...
Back issues are available for download in Adobe Portable Document
Format PDF from:
http://www.nvps.org/html/fotofax/fotofax_backissues.html
Thanks to [email protected] !
Bill - do you go to the meetings? Maybe I'll meet you there someday!
--
Peter Blaise Monahon
From Minolta Mailing List:
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001
From: [email protected]
Subject: O.T. Nature Photo Online Mag.
For those interested in Nature Photography I present an online magazine
that has many articles and is FREE.
Go to:
http://www.naturephotographers.net/
Nature Photographers Online Magazine - Nature Photography, Wildlife
Photography and Photo Instruction
If you would like to see what a 600mm f/4 lens looks like mounted on a
35mm camera then read the article entitled, "Mastering Big Glass Technique
"
Enjoy,
Bill B. (USA)
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon Jan 29 21:55:36 CST 2001
[1] Upcoming Kodak eMagazine
Hello. I'd like to invite you to peruse the February 2001 Kodak
eMagazine at www.kodak.com/go/magazine. The new issue will be up by
week's end. (The January issue is up now.)
The February issue includes photojournalist Layne Kennedy's how-to on
winter photo techniques (metering and perspective), Guest Editor Rick
Sammon's review of photo-editing programs, a gallery of pictures from
the Chicago Alliance of African-American Photographers, and an in-depth
feature on the team that builds and manages the No. 4 Kodak Winston Cup
stock car.
Feel free to drop me a note if you have comments or feedback. I'm
interested in your opinions.
I hope you'll stop by. Thanks.
David Kassnoff
Managing Editor
www.kodak.com/go/magazine
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001
From: Alan [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend GOOD photography periodicals?
Stephen,
Please forgive my categorizations, but here are a few:
Artsy/Thoughtful:
Blind Spot, Aperture, Camerawork, Lenswork, Black & White (more of a
catalog)
Craft:
Photo Techniques, View Camera, Camera Arts
Commercial:
Master Photographer, Freelance Photographer, Select, Big Magazine,
Communication Arts
Business/Practice:
Photo District News (lots of digital), Photographer's Forum(?)
None of these are completely technical, most are not technical at all, but
all are good quality and not riddled with NY photo dealer ads.
Good Luck!
Alan
--
Luna Design Cooperative
design.photo.graphica
http://home.bendcable.com/lunadesign
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001
From: Bill Barton [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] slightly OT. "linhof magazine"
Rich,
I think it is still being published but only in German....
I still have my collection from 73 untill they stopped in English...
a couple of years ago...
wbill
From Rollei Mailing List;
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001
From: [email protected]
Subject: [Rollei] slightly OT. "linhof magazine"
There is a Phototechnik International which is addressed to professional
photographers, but with no specific Linhof content or bias.
http://www.fotomagazin.de/Frames_Phototechnik.htm
Hans-Peter
From: Bill Jameson [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001
Subject: Re: Why are UK photographers better than US?
John Halliwell wrote:
...
> I could never understand the format of some US magazines (Popular
> Photography may be one I've seen), where the page is split down the
> middle with an ad on one side and the editorial on the other. They seem
> to go on like this for several pages before jumping to a set of pages
> further back in the magazine for no apparent reason. Just drives me
> crazy.
...
The jump (to pages in the back) is a "feature" for advertisers. The
advertisers are promised that readers will see their ads in the back
because of the jumps. Pop Photo didn't invent this, but it may be the
worst
example of it that I have seen, many, many jumps and no page numbers ("the
advertiser wouldn't let us put our page number on their ad.") for many,
many pages. Infuriating.
Bill Jameson
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
From: "Michael Ray" [email protected]
Date: Sat May 05 2001
Subject: Re: Popular Photography Magazine = Chicken
Isn't Popular Photography an EMAP USA publication? It is British owned
guys but I agree.. All of the former Petersen mags kiss the advertisers
asses and are worthless for real product reviews.
Michael Ray
...
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
From: [email protected] (Mcwilliard)
Date: Sun May 13 2001
Subject: Re: Popular Photography Magazine = Chicken
For those beginners or even adavanced amateurs who are looking for a
useful and unbiased magazine to help them expand their knowledge and
understanding, Photo Life, published in Canada, is a very good source. It
is devoid of camera store ads and gimmicky "reports" on how excellent the
newest Sigma 28-80 is. If a product sucks, the article will say it. For
instance, a review of the new $2000 Bronica RF645 got only three out of
five stars, with it ranking at two out of five in several categories. Can
you imagine Pop Photo giving such low ratings to anything? Subscription is
quite a bit more than Pop Photo because, as previously mentioned, the
magazine does not carry 60 pages of ads, but the news stand price is the
same. Over the years I have found this to be an exceptionally useful
magazine.
Regards,
David Williard
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001
From: [email protected] (Vagabond)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Some photo magazines & my opinion about them
Hi Freddy. Outdoor Photographer has an email address for subscription
inquiries: [email protected] In Norway this magazine can be found
in larger Narvesen kiosks (those that have foreign books) and so can
the others in this list.
Photo Life
http://www.photolife.com
Photo (France)
http://www.photo.fr
(who would have guessed)
Practical Photography
Subscriptions available at
http://www.ukmagazines.co.uk
Color Foto (Germany)
http://www.netedition.de/colorfoto
From Minolta Mailing List;
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001
From: "Justin Bailey" [email protected]
Subject: Re: Minolta Mirrors
The Minolta Mirror as a thick, beautiful, international publication with
glossy colour pages spans the years 1976-94 (but I notice the '94 edition
is quite scarce out there). The inaugural issue was in 1975, which you
note was in a different format, less like a book but rather a news-letter.
Before and after those dates, there have been publications named Minolta
Mirror as the news-letters of Minolta clubs (or e.g., Spiegel in Germany).
It was the best photo annual I have ever seen produced. The quality of
the photographs (and photographers), and the reproduction, was second to
none. I find all the articles completely interesting, even in fields of
photography that hold no interest for me. It was called a magazine, but
besides the paper-back covering you cannot tell this from a coffee-table
display book. Unfortunately, it was too in-expensive to purchase ($3 USD
in 1976, $7 in the end) compared to the price of making it. I've heard
various additional excuses, such as the editor (Richard V. Bryant for
every issue) having died or retired, the judgement against Minolta in the
Honeywell auto-focus law-suit, or even blaming the consumers with
diminished sales. I'd buy 100 copies per year if they'd just bring it
back!
On the subject of digital Mirrors, I respectfully decline to scan my
collection. We're talking at least 128 large-format pages in colour and
black-and-white per issue, and the quality of the printing and photographs
demands quality work. You'd want OCR, and then put everything together in
a PDF or hypertext format, JPEGs would surely occupy more than one CD.
If that weren't bad enough, the binding prevents the pages from lying flat
on the scanner (unless you crack it), and early issues definitely have
weak binding. But anyone who comes over to my place can feel free to read
them.
(I've got *some* doubles, but not what you're looking for.)
---
Justin "RED" Bailey
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001
--- Original Message ---
From: "Viking" [email protected]
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001
Subject: [MinMan] Minolta Mirrors
Can anyone tell me when Minolta Mirrors were first and last published. I
have from 1976 -1993,and there is reference in the 1976 ed that this is a
new enlarged version, and there is a order form in 1993 ed for next ed.but
I have never seen one. If anyone has earlier or later versions,I would be
interested to buy one.
Thanks
Mike Nobbs,
King's Lynn,England
From Leica Mailing List:
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001
From: "Skip Williams" [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Leica] Speaking of magazines........
I subscribe to Amatuer Photographer from the U.S. It costs about
$190/year, which is a bit pricy. But it's a weekly, and 15-20 minutes of
photo stuff each week is very nice. The portfolios are usually of high
quality, and the reviews seem a bit more inclined to criticize something,
at least from a handling persepctive, if nothing else. Rather than the PP
in the U.S., which doesn't seem to dislike anything. PP doesn't seem to
have any head-to-head comparisons or reviews. I especially like the
classic camera articles about once/month.
I REALLY liked the UK magazine that was discontinued last year, Photo
Techniques. I was sorry to see it go, but at least some of its quality
got folded into AP.
If anyone doesn't read AP, it's worth the subscription to me. Just don't
get the 3rd class, it takes FOREVER to get to the U.S., and you can get
4-6 weeks gaps around holiday time. Go for the class that ships it via
air to the U.S, and then redistributes it via ground here. I only have
about a 2 week delay.
Skip
...
From Pentacon Mailing List:
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001
From: Reg Ronaldson [email protected]
Subject: The Pentacon Club
I've just acquired some copies of "Praktica Photography" the official
journal of "The Pentacon Club" which describes it's membership as open
to all owners of Praktiflex, Exakta, Exa, Praktisix, Pentacon or
Praktica cameras and equipment. The magazines date from the early 1980s
and are full of good photographs and lots of interesting letters and
questions from readers.
Anyone know when this club started and stopped? I assume it's not in
existance now.
--
Reg Ronaldson [email protected]
From Leica Mailing List;
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001
From: Stephen Gandy [email protected]
Subject: [Leica] NEW Photo Newsletter: The 37th Frame Returns
To me Mike Johnston is one of today's best photographic writers:
knowledgeable, informative, and entertaining as well. I hate boring
writing, and Mike's writing isn't. After leaving the Editor post of Photo
Techniques, Mike is starting his own publishing endeavor, a new
Photography Newsletter called THE 37th FRAME. Unfortunately Mike has
decided to write it "a cut above the usual semiliterate corporatespeak"
that I have grown to love so much, but I will try to understand it anyway.
Stephen Gandy
> THE 37th FRAME
> A Photography Newsletter www.luminous-landscape.com/m-johnston.htm
>
>
> Written by Mike Johnston, "The 37th Frame" is an ink-on-paper newsletter
> intended to entertain, inform, and amuse. Published quarterly with the
> seasons for the time being, its contents are all new, entirely about
> photography, written exclusively for the newsletter, and not available from
> any other source. "The 37th Frame" is available by subscription only. No
> advertising is accepted. Each issue features:
>
> THE RANT--Mike sounds off. Fools deserve, and folly receives, no quarter.
> Blunt, funny, sometimes even wrong. But definitely entertaining. There is a
> lot of foolishness in our field, even a bit of injustice, and it sometimes
> provokes me to wax witty and acerbic. If you've had a bad day, this might
> help you feel better.
>
> THE SCOOP--This is where we dish the dirt. Good is the reward of the good,
> but scoundrels get their just desserts. Anecdotes, apocrypha, tales and
> legends of the old days, industry shenanigans, inside stories, and straight
> talk like you won't hear in the commercial magazines.
>
> THE LENS TEST--A subjective aesthetic appraisal of a different lens in each
> issue, in the tradition of the great Japanese optical savants. For the
> connoisseur. Folk who like their world strictly by the numbers may want to
> steer clear. Those with a poetic streak or an aesthetic sensibility will
> understand.
>
> THE VIEW--Photographs, photographers, books, techniques, viewpoints,
> reviews, verities. Personal prejudices and product loyalties, good stuff,
> plugs for things that work and work that satisfies.
>
> THE NEWS--The rest of what you'll want to know from me till next we meet.
>
> All written in a style that is a cut or two above the usual semiliterate
> corporatespeak.
>
> First issue Summer 2001, coming in July
> Sample issue one dollar
> Subscriptions:
> 1 year/4 issues, $18.
> 2 years/8 issues, $32.
> 3 years/12 issues, $42.
> Foreign subscriptions add $2 per year (will be available in PDF form for no
> extra charge by issue 5)
> Make check or money order payable to Michael C. Johnston
> and send to:
> 37th Frame, 316 Windsor Drive, Waukesha, Wisconsin 53186
> Inquiries: [email protected]
>
> "Your piece is among the 3 best that have ever been written about my
> work...I think you are a very good writer." --Helen Levitt, responding to a
> review of her one-woman show at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
>
> "You are a punk." --A manufacturer, following an overly honest product
> review
>
> "A writer's first duty is to be stimulating...You are not _bland_!" --Dave
> Jenkins
>
> "If you leave the [mailing list], how am I going to get my 'Johnston fix'?"
> --Name withheld
>
> "You may not agree with everything Mike Johnston has to say, but you'll be
> entertained by how he says it...one of the most interesting writers about
> photography in America today." --Phil Davis, author of _Beyond the Zone
> System_, the textbook _Photography_, and Professor Emeritus of Photography
> at the University of Michigan
>
> "Your writing is so _tasty_." --Sally Mann, renowned art photographer
>
>-------
>
> I'm asking friends to please help spread the word around--send the
> announcement to other photographers, post it on mailing lists, etc. The
> first issue is due to be printed midway through July, and I need
> approximately 200 subscribers by then. If you can help, I'd be grateful.
> Even if you just pass the announcement or the URL of the web page to a few
> of your photographer friends, anybody who can take an active role in signing
> up a few more photographers would definitely be a big help.
>
> The URL is: www.luminous-landscape.com/m-johnston.htm
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Mike
From Minolta Mailing List;
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001
From: [email protected]
Subject: Minolta Magazines
Hello everyone, does anybody know more details about the Minolta
Camera Club Magazine "Photo Wave"? It is mentioned at the lower left
corner (Monthly Photo) on the Minolta website (www.minolta.com).
It would be nice to know if it is a real magazine and also how could
we subscribe to it.
There is also the "Minolta Image", a quarterly-published magazine
from the UK. Does anybody have comments about that publication?
Thanks for your time.
Best regards.
Stefan
From Leica Mailing List:
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001
From: "Sal DiMarco,Jr." [email protected]
Subject: [Leica] Leica View Mailing List
Lugger & Leggers,
Ralph Hagenauer, Director of Marketing for Leica USA, asks if any
Lugger or Legger would like to receive the LEICA VIEW magazine and who is
NOT currently on the mailing list to e-mail him their mailing address.
Be sure to write MAILING LIST in the subject heading.
The Leica View is free and published twice a year.
Happy Snaps,
Sal DiMarco, Jr.
Postscript:
email address: [email protected]
From Leica Topica Mailing List:
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001
From: "Sal DiMarco,Jr." [email protected]
Subject: Re: Leica View Magazine
Pascal, etal.
Leica View is the twice a year publication of Leica Camera Inc. (the
US distributor). I do not think it is meant for foreign distribution.
The basic circulation is to registered Leica owners.
It generally contains information on new equipment, a couple of
portfolios, a tech piece, a new feature is photos from readers and
information on interesting books by Leica Photographers.
Ralph moved to the USA a couple of years ago.
Happy Snaps,
Sal DiMarco, Jr.
Philadelphia, PA
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001
From: "Glen Barrington" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Magazine recomdations.
I just discovered "Photovision: Art & Technique" by HAST Publishing.
Newstand price $4.95 U.S. I found it at Waldenbooks newstand of all
places.
Editorial email: [email protected]
subscriptions: [email protected]
The March/April issue had an article on WHY people make pictures, an
article on Post Modernism, what it is and the effect it had on
Photography, a review of an ultra light 4x5 field camera, a review of the
f6.3 Tessar lens (patented in 1902) Plus Book reviews on Photobooks,
portfolios and articles on Nina Rizzo, Martin Blume, Robert Hirsch, and
Deborah Sinai. (It doesn't appear to claim to be a large format magazine,
but they are clearly aware of the larger formats. There is plenty there
for the 35mm photographer)
This is a magazine for people who want to look at pictures and read about
PHOTOGRAPHY. And it appears to be produced by people who believe the same
thing. The readers of this magazine don't want to read about what they
can BUY for their cameras. For the record, I have no connection to the
magazine.
I feel just like you do. I think it was in Petersens a couple of months
ago there was an "article" (identified as editorial content) about famous
photographers favorite equipment. Each photographer took a page to
describe the piece and why he/she liked it. On the opposite page was an
ad for that VERY product. There was no mention of classic equipment, or
the like, All the photographers just happened to select current equipment!
How convenient for the ad sales department. The whole thing was so
obviously a set up for the ad department. I wouldn't have had a problem
with that if the thing was billed as an advertising supplement. Just how
stupid do they think we are?
---
...
Date: 6 Jun 2001
From: [email protected] (dan)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Magazine recomdations.
"Ray Creveling" [email protected] wrote:
> Do any legitimate photomags exist ?
> The only one I've found I enjoy so far is photographic but,
> i rarely find a negative comment about anything.
> I have a feeling most magazine would right up a camera that explodes
> when you press the shutter as a weight reducing feature.
I shoot mostly landscapes, so I look for mags that focus on that.
The two mags that I usually buy every month are
"Outdoor Photography" a new UK mag (sorry, no addy)
and "Outdoor Photographer" http://www.outdoorphotographer.com
"EOS magazine" is a UK quarterly that I receive by mail.
http://www.eos-magazine.com
Stay away from "Nature Photographer"
May the Light be with you.
-----
dan
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001
From: Keith Clark [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Re: Nature's Best Magazine
PWW wrote:
> > Clueless -
> >
> > Most magazines worth reading are already following this business model.
>
> Really? Which ones? Many of the BEST publications are not!
You mean the glossy purty pitcher mags? The ones with the "big name
shooters"? No, some of those aren't, because the publishers seem to be
still living in the 70's.
You want a list of excellent publications with useful web sites? You asked
for it! I hope you like a lot of links, because here they come! Not all
are photography mags, because as I've said, publishers of photo mags just
don't seem to be living in the present. They act like they're stuck in
some musty old darkroom somewhere, like some people here...
http://www.nationalgeographic.com (widely regarded as "the best" photo
magazine, although it is mostly articles)
http://www.pdnonline.com (a must read - one of the best photo magazines in
print today)
http://peimag.com/site_central.htm (another must read for all
photographers living in the present times and not stuck in a darkroom -
this one comes free in my mailbox each month - unsolicited)
http://www.photographic.com
http://www.washingtonian.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com
http://www.edigitalphoto.com
http://www.digitalfineart.com (I get this one free each month)
http://www.oregonlive.com
http://www.nytimes.com
http://linuxtoday.com
http://www.forbes.com
http://www.businessweek.com
http://www.dv.com/ (I get this one free each month - arrived unsolicited
and
keeps coming)
http://www.avvideo.com/Htm/homeset.htm (I get this one free each month -
arrived unsolicited and keeps coming)
http://www.emediapro.net (I get this one free each month)
OK, it's not that long of a list. But those are just the ones off the top
of my head, that I visit often. And they are all outstanding publications.
If you really, really look, you'll find a lot more.
Got the point yet?
Keith
From: [email protected] (JR)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: USA mags and ads etc. Re: UK photo mag's
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001
> Personally, I am finding that buying books (esp. used) produces a much
> higher ratio of info than most magazines with entry level info emphasis...
I agree 100%. I am always searching the book stores for great books. Not
only are they very useful, you can find all the info on specialized areas
of photographyt, i.e concert photography, available light night
photography, sports photography...etc. I used those examples because 1, I
have books on those subjects, and 2, I have seen posts here recently
asking about those subjects. As good as the information here is, it will
probably not measure up to 200 or so pages of good information in well
written books. A $25 investment and a few hours of reading time will make
your images much better, not to mention open your eyes to lots of
different types of photography...
JR
From: David Kilpatrick [email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: UK magazine subscriptions
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001
Hi. We are sending out 20,000 leaflets which make offers on our
relaunched magazines Freelance Photographer, Master Digital Photographer
and Master Photographer.
>From November, The Master Photographer will only be six times a year,
but each issue will have a separate Master Digital Photographer included
- two mags in one envelope. Freelance Photographer will alternate in the
other months (again, six times a year, as at present).
A very similar deal to that offered with the leaflets can be downloaded
as a PDF file from our website. This is a single page A4 form you can
complete and return and offers discounts specifically for UK photo
newsgroup readers.
The URL is:
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/subform0901.pdf
Sorry this is UK only until we get deals sorted out for overseas.
Thanks for your time - David Kilpatrick, Editor and Publisher.
From: [email protected] (Alan Blakely)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.misc
Subject: Architectural Photographers Association
Date: 1 Oct 2001
The Association of Independent Architectural Photographers (AIAP) was
launched recently. This is a professional organization exclusively
for architectural photographers. The AIAP website is located at:
http://www.aiap.net. One of the main features of the AIAP website is
the "Find a Photographer" search where photography buyers can locate
an AIAP photographer, and then link directly to their website and
email. The AIAP website also offers a wealth of resources for
architectural photographers. I'm a member and wholeheartedly
recommend it.
From: "Brian Ellis" [email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Why is Leica so expensive?
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001
Shutterbug and most other camera magazines exist only through advertising
revenues. If there are no new products to sell, there's much less need for
advertising. If there's no advertising, there's no magazine.So all photo
magazines (as well as all other specialty magazines that rely on
advertising) have a vested interest in promoting new products and you
shouldn't rely on them to be objective.
This isn't to say that when the magazines favorably review a product they
are being dishonest or unethical, just that there is an inherent,
unavoidable, conflict of interest. The only difference between that conflict
and the conflict that exists when a stock broker touts a particular stock or
a life insurance salesman tries to sell you a life insurance policy is that
with the magazine the conflict is not quite so obvious but it's still there.
The stock may be great, you may really need the life insurance, the photo
equipment may be great, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that there is a
conflict of interest when photo equipment is reviewed in a magazine that
relies on advertising by photo manufacturers and sellers for its existence.
One of the great things about the internet is that we no longer need to
rely almost exclusively on magazine reviews when buying photography
equipment. For the first time owners of equipment who have no financial
interest in promoting it can easily communicate objectively with each other
and with prospective buyers about the pros and cons of the equipment. When
you read comments by owners about a camera or lens or whatever, it's often
amazing to learn of problems and disadvantages they've experienced that
should have been obvious to anyone who even briefly tried the equipment but
that were never mentioned in the magazine reviews.
"Bill Tuthill" [email protected]> wrote
> Robert Monaghan [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > ah, okay, who do YOU find useful, interesting people for technical photo
> > topics and resources? books? authors? articles? magazines? Inquiring
minds
> > want to know ;-) bobm
>
> Well sorry to say this, but you (Robert Monaghan) and others on this
> newsgroup, such as the multiple Tonys (or I suppose Tonies), Daves,
> Steves, Bills, and so forth, seem more objective an informative than
> the pros writing for Shutterbug. Remember that every pro needs money,
> so they are subject to payola bias.
>
> The photo.net website is a good source of information, but sometimes
> it's hard to wade thru all the posturing.
>
> We'll never forget Bob Shell writing that he had to "consult his notes
> to tell which pictures were from his F5 and which were from his Prego 140"
> in a review of the Rollei Prego. On my desk I have the Shutterbug issue
> with a glowingly positive review of the Cosina (Vivitar) 70-300/4.5-5.6.
>
> I'm partially in agreement with you that Pop Photo remains worth reading,
> certainly more so than certain other US magazines with similar names.
>
From: "GT" [email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.nature
Subject: Wilderness photography forum
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001
Folks,
We are in the process of starting a wilderness photography forum. This forum
is not meant to replace or compete with rec.photo.technique.nature but
rather complement it.
Our goal is to foster discussion among environmentally-conscious
photographers with a passion for the outdoors (hikers, backpackers, climbers
etc.) in an email forum that is less prone to spam and static.
If you feel this may be of interest to you, please take a moment to check
the URL below and read our welcome message.
Note this is a brand new forum and we have just started building our
subscriber list so it may take a couple of weeks for traffic to build up.
Your participation will be very much appreciated.
Wilderness Photography forum is hosted at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wildphoto
If you are not already a member of Yahoo Groups, you will need to sign up in
order to participate.
Thank you,
Michael and Guy
From: Rei Shinozuka [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Photo Techniques: Bob Shell 25 Best Cameras
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001
"Photo Techniques" used to be called "Darkroom Techniques" until a few years
back. PT is less consumer-oriented than other photo magazines and more
directed to the various technical processes of producing superior
images.
their website is: http://www.phototechmag.com
-rei
> From: Bob Shell [email protected]>
>
>
> > From: Johnny Deadman [email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001
> > To: [email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Rollei] Photo Techniques: Bob Shell 25 Best Cameras
> >
> >> and looks like I may become a regular at Photo Techniques.
> >
> > well... I sure hope so... but... isn't PT going down the tubes?
>
>
> Certainly not! Perhaps you have the USA Photo Techniques confused
> with the UK Photo Technique, which already went under.
>
> Bob
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001
From: Gerald Lehrer [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Portra B&W Film
To: [email protected]
Phil
I do believe that Border Books carries
that mag. I saw that issue a while back
but I was more interested in the classic
cars, unfortunately,and missed the Rollei.
Border Books sells their magazines at a
discount, but I don't know if they are a
nationwide outfit. I counted over a dozen
photo magazines there, some devoted to
medium, and some to large,format. It's
a change from Modern/Popular.
Jerry
Philippe Tempel wrote:
> I think I bought the last issue down 57th street. Probably a
> news stand near Carnegie Hall I think? I could also buy it
> at a news stand on Broadway in SoHo. I think they are the
> same company but can't think of the name of the place. So
> there's many places you can get good photo magazines. Oh,
> the news stand at 11th Street and 6th Ave has a good
> selection as well. I bought the LeicaWorld magazing there
> once. Very pricey at about $12 but had some interesting
> B&W shots. The Practical Photography BTW was $7.95
> so I was off a buck.
>
> > > From: "Philippe Tempel" [email protected]>
> > >
> > > I just read and re-read the latest issue of Practical Photography
> > > magazine. .... Too bad it's a UK
> > > rag and costs a me a pricey $7 in New York. I guess I should
> > > be glad I can get it at all...
> >
> > where do you get it in NYC? midtown?
> >
> > BTW, the subscription rate for the US is 63.24 GBP, or $91.1858
> > (currency calculator courtesy of bloomberg.com)
> >
> > your street price: $7 x 13 issues = $91, so that's not a bad deal.
> >
> > -rei
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001
From: Nathan Wajsman [email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rollei] practical photography
Bob Shell wrote:
> Is Lenswork a UK title? I've not seen that one.
Bob,
No, LensWork is published in the U.S. The number is (800) 659-2130. It is
published bi-monthly and costs $42 a year in the U.S. Check out their web site:
http://www.lenswork.com
Nathan
--
Nathan Wajsman
Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland
e-mail: [email protected]
Photo-A-Week: http://www.wajsman.com/
General photo site: http://belgiangator.tripod.com/
Belgium photo site: http://members.xoom.com/wajsman/
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001
From: Nathan Wajsman [email protected]>
To: LUG [email protected]>,
RUG [email protected]>
Subject: [Rollei] Good German magazine
I have recently discovered a monthly magazine called "Photonews",
published in Germany. It has the format of a tabloid newspaper (although
printed on better paper) and contains quite a few interesting articles
as well as very comprehensive listings of exhibitions in Germany,
Austria, Switzerland but also other European countries. I would
definitely recommend it to European LUGgers and RUGgers who can read
German. It is only available by subscription:
Photonews, Chemnitzstrasse 67, D-22767 Hamburg, tel. +49 40 389 5891,
e-mail: [email protected]
A yearly subscription is 50 DM in Germany, 60 DM in Europe and 60
DM+postage overseas.
Nathan
--
Nathan Wajsman
Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland
From: David Kilpatrick [email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: MINOLTA IMAGE worldwide subs
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001
REDUCED PRICES FOR MINOLTA IMAGE quarterly magazine
and MINOLTA CLUB membership - Europe and Worldwide
----------------------------------------------------
We have placed two new Acrobat PDF printable subscription forms on
Internet. These can been downloaded, printed and returned to the Minolta
Club by anyone in Europe or the rest of the world wanting to receive
MINOLTA IMAGE magazine.
We have taken the decision to lower the EUROPEAN membership price to the
same as the UK price - 20 Euros (which is a close equivalent) - and to
accept Euro cheques or money orders.
The worldwide price has been lowered to $30 US or =A320 sterling, and
applies to both Zone 1 and Zone 2. It includes mailing the magazine
using Air Mail Printed Paper rates, not slow Surface Mail.
The PDF files can be downloaded (or opened and viewed, depending on your
internet browser and system) from:
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/
The direct URLS for downloading from this email are:
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/euroleaflet.pdf
and
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/worldleaflet.pdf
Please forward a copy of this email to anyone who may be interested, as
a Minolta camera owner or photo enthusiast - or even better, make the
PDF URL available. Minolta Image is an English language magazine of high
quality and high picture content. The Club's competitions, benefits and
services are all available to overseas readers where appropriate. We
cover digital and conventional photography, modern and historic
Minoltas, and appeal mainly to the amateur enthusiast and family camera u=
ser.
Regards -
David Kilpatrick
Director
MINOLTA CLUB of Great Britain
From: "Simon Stanmore" [email protected]>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: UK photo mag's
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001
UK mag's -
Amateur Photographer - weekly. Equipment reviews seem fair to most - they're
certainly comprehensive. Lens tests conducted by a Dr Stuart Bell - the best
(most logical)) I've come accross - they don't test a macro just at infinity
for example (unlike that 'famous' Hasselblad site). Lots of ad's in AP -
lots of good articles as well though (not so much technique, more history,
interviews, exhibitions, etc). You can buy complete bound collections of all
their lens reviews - well worth it if you're a bit nuts about finding 'the
best' optics.
Practical Photography - monthly. Equipment reviews often contrast with AP's.
Some people suspect a pro-Canon stance from PP. Other articles are patchy -
can be good for a few months that crap for ages unless you're a complete
beginer.
Outdoor Photography - monthly. Mostly UK landscape and wildlife. Superb
collection of regular contributors. Great if you live in the UK for
comprehensive info on locations.
Their are a couple of new mag's targeted at the enthusiast - one for B&W
only and the other looking like a PP clone (PP's ex technical writier is the
editor).
The best UK mag IMO is Professional Photographer. I'm not a full-time pro
but this mag has something for every photo nut. Reviews are comprehensive
and critical. Articals are varied (technique / interviews / business / art)
and I usually end up reading the lot - it's well written stuff.
The British Journal of Phography (weekly I think) is another mag targeted at
pro's. It's has a low page count but equipment reviews are good - very
technically orientated usually.
"Tony Spadaro" [email protected]> wrote
> I like and read Photo Life too. Not many equipment reviews, but a good
> magazine about photography. I get occasional emails of equipment reviews
> from a couple English magazines - Amateur Photographer and Practical
> Photographer - they seenm to be braver in their conclusions about
equipment,
> but you would really have to ask our resident UK photographers for a real
> review of the magazines.
> The review I saw was in Petersen's - a great magazine, in 1974 that has
> been in a downhill spiral for at least 2 decades. I would put it at the
> bottom of any heap. At least Pop has the occasional interesting article,
> Petersens is almost pur advertorial.
> I used to subscribe to Outdoor Photographer, which has several
> conservationist columnists, but the advertorial for Jeep, showing how you
> can plow your way through the wilds of America in the comfort of your own
> air conditioned tank was the last straw for me. I don't need a 100%
> conservationist viewpoint but it's obvious the magazine is published by
> those who think the great outdoors is a table a Tavern on the Green.
>
> --
> http://home.nc.rr.com/tspadaro/
> The Camera-ist's Manifesto
> a Radical approach to photography.
> "Brad Clarke" [email protected]> wrote
> > "Tony Spadaro" [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>I just took a few minutes to read the last paragraph of a review of the
> new Minolta
> > >>in a magazine - a really bad magazine that I left on the newstand as I
> do
> > >>most.
> > Petersons? Pop Photo?
> >
> > >>It was pretty glowing, as are just about all the reviews of every
> > >>camera in US magazines .
> > Can you recommend any good non-US camera mags? I read Photo Life
> (Canadian)
> > regularly and that's about it for phot stuff. I prefer the British mags
> for
> > computer related stuff.
> >
> > Brad
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:26:43 -0800
Subject: Second issue of Reflex released!
From: [email protected]
Introducing from Jen Weisel and Reflex Publications, Reflex, a journal
of photography dedicated to showcasing personal, non-commercial work.
When was the last time your picked up your camera and thought only of
that feeling of release that comes with shooting something for yourself?
In the professional art world, the joy of art is often lost; Reflex
offers a chance to get back in touch with what initially drove you to
create. This world wants to know about you, and art is about responding
to that call.
Reflex began in early 1999 as a 5X5" zine. I sent out about 100 copies
each quarter to galleries, editors, designers, and photographers. The
response I received was overwhelming and unexpected; everyone loved the
small, personal feel of the zine, and I received a lot of comments about
how they could personally relate to the content of Reflex. The focus of
Reflex, while a little more fine tuned these days, has always been the
same: to provide a space for photographers to display personal work. I
believe that in every artist there is a body of work that rises to the
surface from the rest, showing as much about the artist as the subject
portrayed. I am constantly in awe of the hidden power of our own
creativity, of how the most closed off person cannot help but show some
of what lies inside them through their work. This, and my ever
persistent desire to share my life and experiences with others is what's
driving me to continue and expand Reflex.
So here I am. I have certainly found that starting a magazine, or any
business, is no easy feat. I have spent the last 12 months working on
content, a business plan, and, of course, raising funds. While skeptics
run rampant, I still can't help but get excited about Reflex! The new
format is 6.5" square, perfect bound, and 70 pages. The second issue
features portfolios by Erika Larsen, Amanda Friedman, and Kreg Holt. I
encourage you to please take a look at the Reflex website and subscribe!
This is a chance for you to help Reflex and get a really good deal at
the same time! You will have helped a very determined entrepreneur get
herself up and running!
Thank you for your consideration and support. With your help, I will
continue to bring a photography journal with focus into the marketplace.
Do take care, and contact me with any questions you may have.
Best,
Jen Weisel
Editor/Founder
Reflex Publications
www.reflexpublications.com
P.S. For a limited time, a discounted 2 year subscription is available
for $50. If you would like to contribute more, simply purchase multiple
subscriptions and the length of your subscription will be adjusted
accordingly. Thanks again!
From: [email protected] (Dan Kalish)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: Re: How often do you look thru old photography magazines
Date: 23 Dec 2001
[email protected] (Rich Willems) wrote
> Thanks for the feedback.
I'm glad Mr. Monaghan (whose contributions to on-line information are
phenomenal!) revised this thread.
My photographic interest has kind of sagged over the past few decades
but I've gotten re-interested, and acquired a Nikon-F and Rolleiflex
Automat/MX to supplement my Voigtlander Avus and Minolta SRT-101.
A big question is: how has photography changed in the past 30 years?
The question is kind of from a Rip Van Winkle perspective.
So, I've been looking through my issues of Camera 35 from the mid 70's
(an absolutely fabulous magazine; emphasis on technique, not on "if
you want to take great pictures you need this accessory"); I found a
stash of magazines from the early 90s when my mother got interested in
photography, and now I've got some current magazines.
The first issue of Camera 35 I picked up had an interview with Marc
Riboud, author and photographer of the "Three Banners of China". I
have that book and now read it with a deeper perspective. Another
issue had a review of the Canon AE-1, my mother's camera.
One of the magazines from the early 90s had a pre-release review of a
new exciting film, Velvia.
I was looking through a catalog from 47th St. Photo, now defunct.
That was interesting, not just for pricing, but to follow trends.
Even then, the Minolta accessories and lenses cost less than Nikons.
At least I could find a list of Rolleiflex accessories somewhere!
Changes over these 30 years? I don't know enough yet about the
current photographic scene. We've been firmly entrenched in 35mm (the
Rolleiflex TLR had been the handheld camera in the 50s). Back then
(1970), everyone wanted to be a photojournalist in Southeast Asia.
Between the 90's and now: Afghanistan was a big story then and now.
Equipment has changed, from all manual to automatic exposure and motor
drives to automatic focus to digital.
I'm rereading the Camera 35s. There's so much there.
Dan
Unemployed Artist, Photographer, Mathematician, Scholar, and Lawyer
From russian camera mailing list:
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002
From: Ron Schwarz [email protected]>
Subject: Re: Rare Leica Standard?-Ebay #1330501464
Jay Tepper is the publisher of CameraShopper (I am a subscriber, and
recommend it, in addition to the classifieds which I hope to be
advertising
in "Real Soon Now", he runs very interesting articles on older cameras and
lenses. The last issue had a nice article on the history of the Tessar.).
He has a good reputation. That may be one of the Italian copies I read
about a year or two ago. His site is http://www.jay-tepper.com/ and his
magazine is at http://www.camera-shopper.com/
...
From contax mailing list:
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002
From: muchan [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Contax] OT Best Photo Mags?
Mike Romoff wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for photography magazines that have interesting images,
> useful instruction, and intelligent analysis of equipment?
>
> I have been consistently disappointed with the quality and content of most
> of the photography magazines that I have picked up on the newsstand. I have
> seen lots of film "comparisons" that basically just compile the information
> on the film box and camera "comparisons" that give just the most basic of
> information. The "how to" sections either remind you to try not to lose your
> lenscap or talk about what the author's thought process was in coming up for
> the subject for his article ("Well I was going to write about nature
> photography but then I decided I hadn't discussed skylight filters for a
few
> months. . . .")
>
If you want to see a lot of beautiful, inspiring images,
National Geographic.
If you want artistic inspiration from other photographers work
ZOOM. (Italy -- Italian/English bilingual magazine.)
If you want to be "shocked"
PHOTO. (France, French)
If you want a lot of advices, and some smile
Practical Photographer. (UK) (The editor, Willy Cheung is doing good
work, I think. Quality improves in long term.)
If you want information about used market, new equipments, tips,
Shutterbug.
(and some digital darkroom advices, this seems the strongest point of this
magazine these monthes)
Chasseur d'Image (France) was in my recommendation list, but these months, I
think the printing quality dropped, and too much talk about digicam and it
seems less interesting than before...
As for the answer for the "Best", buying National Geographic every month
is the most stimulating "photography course" for me.
(Reza's photo in Dec 2001 was spectacular! about to start reading Jan
2002)
muchan
from contax mailing list:
From: "Steve Woolfenden" [email protected]>
To: [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Contax] OT Best Photo Mags?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002
> > Any recommendations for photography magazines that have interesting
images,> > useful instruction, and intelligent analysis of equipment?
For the most part I would go along with Muchan - Practical Photography ,
Zoom & Shutterbug . Despite nobody on the list ever mentioning it , I also
rate American Photo quite highly . No equipment or advice worth speaking
of , but plenty of images........
Steve
From: David Kilpatrick [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace
Subject: Icon photo magazines
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/
Icon is a small publishing company based in Scotland. We publish
Freelance Photographer, The Master Photographer and Minolta Image. All
three magazines are high quality, sheetfed print available by
subscription only. They are not sold through newsagents. The editors and
publishers are David & Shirley Kilpatrick.
*Minolta Image* has been published by us since 1980 and is a quarterly
(4X Y) for owners of all Minolta cameras. There are some special
services provided for readers, such as postal lens hire and discount
repairs, but these ONLY apply to the UK (sorry!).
*Freelance Photographer* started publication as PhotoPro in 1989. In
1995, the name was changed to Photon and digital became an important
part of the content. In 1999, we teamed up with Bureau of Freelance
Photographers, and changed the name to Freelance Photographer. It is
aimed at the solo photographer interested in publication, exhibition,
competitions or earning money - whether professionally or as a personal
interest. It is bi-monthly (6X Y) and is also suitable for amateur
readers who aspire to the same standards as freelancers.
*The Master Photographer* is the official magazine of The Master
Photographers Association. Membership is restricted to full-time
professional, who must also pass a qualification test. It relates mainly
to social and commercial photography - studio operation, portraiture,
weddings, industrial, advertising and applied. It is not recommended for
amateur readers. It is 10X a year.
All subscribers are entitled to free equipment sales/wants advertising
in all these magazines, maximum 20 words in any one issue. The website
URL given provides on-line, secure credit card subscription facilities
with promotional prices plus an automatic discount calculation if you
subscribe to more than one title. Our overseas subscriptions are
expensive - we realise this. Our magazines are printed on fairly heavy
paper and we use SwiftAir despatch, which usually reaches all parts of
the world in under a week.
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/
From: "Jim McGee" [email protected]
Newsgroups: aus.photo
Subject: New Online Photo Magazine
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001
I'm trying to get word out for our new online magazine Vivid Light
Photography. Contributing editors this month include Moose Peterson, Galen
Rowell, and Clement Salvadori (travel).
We'll be publishing monthly with articles on portrait, landscape, travel,
and nude photography. Each month we'll also have equipment reviews, and
digital darkroom how-to articles. We have some wet darkroom articles
planned for later in the year.
You can subscribe by email, download a printable copy or view it online at:
www.vividlight.com
Please let me know your opinions and any topics you'd like to see covered.
Thanks,
Jim McGee
Managing Editor
Vivid Light Photography
From russian camera mailing list:
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002
From: Ron Schwarz [email protected]
Subject: Re: Rare Leica Standard?-Ebay #1330501464
Jay Tepper is the publisher of CameraShopper (I am a subscriber, and
recommend it, in addition to the classifieds which I hope to be
advertising
in "Real Soon Now", he runs very interesting articles on older cameras and
lenses. The last issue had a nice article on the history of the Tessar.).
He has a good reputation. That may be one of the Italian copies I read
about a year or two ago. His site is http://www.jay-tepper.com/ and his
magazine is at http://www.camera-shopper.com/
...
From contax mailing list:
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002
From: muchan [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Contax] OT Best Photo Mags?
Mike Romoff wrote:
> Any recommendations for photography magazines that have interesting images,
> useful instruction, and intelligent analysis of equipment?
>
> I have been consistently disappointed with the quality and content of most
> of the photography magazines that I have picked up on the newsstand. I have
> seen lots of film "comparisons" that basically just compile the information
> on the film box and camera "comparisons" that give just the most basic of
> information. The "how to" sections either remind you to try not to lose your
> lenscap or talk about what the author's thought process was in coming up for
> the subject for his article ("Well I was going to write about nature
> photography but then I decided I hadn't discussed skylight filters for a few
> months. . . .")
>
If you want to see a lot of beautiful, inspiring images,
National Geographic.
If you want artistic inspiration from other photographers work
ZOOM. (Italy -- Italian/English bilingual magazine.)
If you want to be "shocked"
PHOTO. (France, French)
If you want a lot of advices, and some smile
Practical Photographer. (UK) (The editor, Willy Cheung is doing good
work, I think. Quality improves in long term.)
If you want information about used market, new equipments, tips,
Shutterbug.
(and some digital darkroom advices, this seems the strongest point of this
magazine these monthes)
Chasseur d'Image (France) was in my recoendation list, but these months, I
think the printing quality dropped, and too much talk about digicam and it
seems less interesting than before...
As for the answer for the "Best", buying National Geographic every month
is the most stimulating "photography course" for me.
(Reza's photo in Dec 2001 was spectacular! about to start reading Jan 2002)
muchan
from contax mailing list:
From: "Steve Woolfenden" [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Contax] OT Best Photo Mags?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002
> Any recommendations for photography magazines that have interesting images,
> useful instruction, and intelligent analysis of equipment?
For the most part I would go along with Muchan - Practical Photography ,
Zoom & Shutterbug . Despite nobody on the list ever mentioning it , I also
rate American Photo quite highly . No equipment or advice worth speaking
of , but plenty of images........
Steve
From Leica Topica Mailing List:
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002
From: "Christopher Williams" [email protected]
Subject: Re: Classic Camera Feb Issue M-System special
Thanks for the great link. the Leica video is on my want list.
Chris Williams
New Orleans
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002
Subject: Classic Camera Feb Issue M-System special
Thought that some of you might be interested to know that there is a Special
M Sytem edition of Classic Camera coming out this month.
The information I recieved from The Falsten Partnership www.falsten.com
suppliers of quality English language photography magazines on subscription
is that this coming issue is devoted to the history of the leica M system.
With information on the most collectable Leicas and lenses. The issue costs
�9.
Hope that it is of interest to some of you.
Jonathan
From Leica Topica Mailing List:
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002
From: Shel Belinkoff [email protected]
Subject: Leica and Other Classic Cameras and Lenses
Tired of the same old photo magazines? Looking for some interesting
Leica material? Interested in older and classic cameras in general?
Maybe this will be of interest:
http://www.leicatime.com/articles.htm
--
Shel Belinkoff
mailto:[email protected]
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/
From: [email protected] (ArtKramr)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: 10 Mar 2002
Subject: Re: Nikon Vs. Canon - a tiresome debate
> think this is partly because certain advertising-based photography
>magazines raise the profile of equipment to a level higher than it
>should be, with the result that many readers come to believe that they
>really need the latest fully-featured automatic camera.
The purpose of photo magazines is to sell their advertisers prducts.
Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002
From: "Fox, Robert" [email protected]
Subject: [Rollei] OT: See Rolleicord on cover of March AmatuerPhotographer
Hey, the Rolleicord is back!
http://www.amateurphotographer.com/
Haven't found a hard-copy of this magazine around here, but I'll pick it up
if I do.
R.J.
[Ed. note: Leica marketing alerts and Leica World magazine link info...]
From: [email protected] (ArtKramr)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: 29 Apr 2002
Subject: Leica News
...
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From: [email protected] (Vagabond)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Some photo magazines & my opinion about them
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001
Having badmouthed Popular Photography I have been challenged to come
up with names of good photo magazines - preferably ones that are easy
to find in the US. I don't know much about the latter, but the
magazines mentioned here can be found and subscribed to via the
internet in any case. So lets begin.
BRITAIN
Practical Photography
This is probably the easiest one to find in the US. A magazine aimed
at amateurs. For: Lots of technique advice, educational, British
(schoolboy?) humour, many nice pictures, in particular good
landscapes. There is more picture talk than equipment talk. Tests seem
balanced but not very thorough. although they do run comparison tests
with winners and losers declared. Against: Gets repetitive after a
while. The magazine is family-oriented and nothing daring can be
expected. Editor Will can get over-excited about some themes, such as
glamour or how-to-make-money-from-your-photos. (Hint: Don't send them
to Practical Photography, Will doesn't pay well). Conclusion: Good for
beginners and mid-level photographers, and certainly much better than
the US alternatives "Petersen's" and "Popular".
Outdoor Photography
This one-year old start-up not to be confused with the American
magazine of almost the same name has added 16 more pages to its latest
issue. For: A magazine by enthusiasts for enthusiasts. Stunning
pictures. Writing by people who obviously love photography. Seemingly
every landscape and wild animal photographer in the kingdom
contributes. Equipment talk is kept to a necessary minimum. A negative
review of the Nikkor 80-400 VR seems to indicate frankness even if I
thought it was too harsh! Against: Too British-isles oriented in
choice of pictures and locations for us foreigners, but what can you
expect. Conclusion: Highly recommended.
CANADA
Photo Life
An outdoor-oriented bi-monthly magazine. Expect to see polar bears in
every issue. For: High quality pictures. Good articles. There is a
sensible and friendly tone in this magazine. Against: The magazine
should have been thicker. Conclusion: Easily beats the competition
from south of the border.
GERMANY
Color Foto
As you would expect from the nation that gave us Carl Zeiss, Leica and
Contax, this is a thoroughly made magazine. For: High-tech photo gear
testing leaves little to chance. Combines both "common" and "artsy"
pictures. Every month sees stunning 100-picture reader section with an
emphasis on strict composition (well, they are Germans after all).
Against: More equipment than picture-oriented. Dry and serious style.
Conclusion: Essential reading in the German-speaking universe and the
ultimate magazine for equipment-tests.
FRANCE
Photo
My March 2001 issue of this froggy magazine is as French as it gets:
Front page is a nude woman suggestively sucking the snout of a toy
crocodile. Tits are displayed on the cover and the full package
inside. There isn't a family-friendly picture in sight, but rather
artsy and photojournalistic pictures of the more daring kind. Ladies
dressed only in ketchup, India earth quake victims (dead) and
Holocaust pictures that I hope I never have to see again. For: Very
different. Pictures are of high quality in their genres. Against: Not
a hobbyist or practical advice magazine by any means. Conclusion:
Don't leave it where your kids can find it.
Happy reading!
Vagabond
PS. Shutterbug isn't available where I live. Can someone else review
that magazine please?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002
From: Gordon Moat [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: What are you reading????
PDN (Photo District News)
Picture
Wallpaper*
I.D.
Graphis
black+white
L�rzer's Archive
Metropolis
American Photo
Leica Fotographie International
Practical Photography
PDN is the best source for me to find art buyers, ad execs, and latest
contacts. Really informative about copyright issues, and latest work trends.
Picture showcases emerging talent. Wallpaper* is like a photography and design
source books, with lots of great travel, architecture, food, and fashion
images. I.D. is the international design magazine; some great product shots
here. Graphis is mostly design oriented, though they show uses for lots of
great images.
black+white is a bit unusual, and not for everyone, though they have some
great people shots in some issues. L�rzer's Archive shows the latest in
advertising images, and quite a few ads for photographers. Metropolis just
went through a re-design from Pentagram; and are mostly architectural
interiors, furniture, and lifestyle images.
American Photo I get mostly for the profiles of some famous shooters. Leica
Fotographie International has some great images, some short articles about
famous photographers, and technical equipment reviews that make me fall asleep
(two out of three makes it a buy).
Practical Photography is a UK publication that is sometimes available here.
They have lots of interesting images, a few articles about equipment
techniques, and some profiles of working professionals. A good occasional
purchase, when the issue is themed towards one of my interests.
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html
...
From minolta mailing list:
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002
From: David Kilpatrick [email protected]
Subject: Best Photo Magazines (plug for own titles!)
Charles Loeven wrote:
> The best ones are the ones you can read in the bookstore or library
and put them back
> I used to like Shutterbug but the last couple of issues had about 1/2
page of actual text I wanted to read.
> Of course if you want to be told you need a digital camera they all are great. :-(
>
The best magazines are British/European, because although we are just as
commercial, the stuff we are commercial about is totally irrelevant to
US readers and therefore more interesting :-)
As for the 'read in a bookstore and put them back', you get what you
deserve. You can't buy our magazines (Icon Publications Ltd) in any
bookstore or find them in any library. If you want them, you pay, and
they are not especially cheap - producing top quality mags for as few as
2,000 readers per title means a combination of a) my business consists
of ME, the wife, and son Richard selling ads b) we get phenomenal reader
loyalty and many of our regulars have been with my mags since before
1980. Some of those old critters were competing against me and Shirley
in photo mag contests back in...er, 1969 or some other era of the world.
Some of them were old back then, and then they phone me and say 'you
won't remember me' (we usually do!) 'I'm 95 now and...'
Seriously - British mags are quite different, 100 per cent. Our own
Minolta Image is not like any magazine you will find anywhere else and
contains far less technical stuff than you would find on this newsgroup.
Mostly it's about pictures, taken by Minolta users.
Our bi-monthly Freelance Photographer is an untypical UK magazine. The
content of the issue just being printed (headed June/July - we don't
publish June in April the way some publishers do!) includes -
Photokina - 2 pages of highly detailed information with a full listing
of all contact phone numbers, tourist offices, accommodation, websites
etc for anyone wanting to visit the world's largest photo fair in Kvln,
Germany, last week September.
Voigtlander Bessa R2 - two-page user review of the new M-mount rangefinder.
Events to Photograph - three pages of detailed, contact number/press
office info provided, UK events covering July and August. Specifically
those where photography is possible/welcomed.
Nikon F55 - first UK test report. Five pages. Our writer took the F55
for five weeks to Andalucia, Spain, backpacking. His report is also very
much about travelling light, and about people, Spain, being on the road.
It is not an MTF test type of report. We don't do those.
Dates in Spain - we liked the report so much we asked one of our
contributors from Spain to dig out four or five major photogenic events
for late summer and autumn, and provide all the info - phone numbers,
who to get permits from, where to stay, when to arrive etc. Lots of
Brits go to Spain for vacations. Very few ever visit these places.
Picture Desk - six pages of reader pix selected purely for impact and
relevance to stock pix/editorial sales. We give a selected prize, or a
few prizes (next time round, about $500 of Lee Filters 100mm system) and
send film to all successful contributors. Only about $25 worth.
Straight Faces - a superb little centre 4 pages portfolio (and our
cover) by Phil Coombes. He works at the BBC in London, not as a
photographer, but keeps a Leica and Nikon with him. All sorts of well
known people arrive for radio interviews. He has permission to shoot
them in the corridor, two minutes; he uses b/w and gets high impact, top
quality portraits as a result. First exposure for this work ever, though
Phil's been around for years as a top rank mono amateur and freelance.
His mono print are inkjets on Permajet stock, but since Robin was off on
holiday this month, they didn't get to advertise. John (the other half
of Permajet) is here on Tuesday and dropping off a mono ink tank system
for our Epson 1160, for review. Means I have to clean the office.
Prof John Hannavy's Then & Now series - Britain's leading authority on
Victorian photography and ALSO a picture library owner and book author,
etc, has done his history series for us for over a decade. This issue he
looks at how images of artworks used to be marketed, and the problems we
have today with copyright. It's quite fascinating to realise how many
little b/w prints of famous painting were sold in the 1800s.
Konica Centuria Super film test - yours truly armed with a Konica Hexar
35 (fixed 35mm f2 lens), and one roll of each of the new Konica films
from 100 to 1600 speed, plus ten days in Mississipi, Lousiana and New
Orleans. Five pages. Also 'tests' in the process the new Agfa dlab-2
digital scanning minilab system.
Bob Smithies' Faces and Places: Indian Summer. Our retired former
Guardian photographer, later TV regional anchorman, with a bagful of
Leicas and a fantastic ability to met people. Bob's feature in every
issue is not about cameras, or film, though we always force new stuff on
him to try. It is about the forgotten art of taking real pictures. Some
readers hate it. They don't like his rambling pen-portraits of
characters he meets, or his commentary on places, or his obvious
enjoyment of the odd glass of wine. But our readers sent us nothing but
boring landscapes, contrived studio shots, commissioned portraits and
things like that. Bob meets people. He takes real, candid or conscious
pictures of them. He talks to his subjects. He is known to them (at
least after he's met them!). There would be no place for him in most UK
photo mags, but we are different; he is a charming and skilled writer,
often quite funny, and the pictures are the lesson. This is a man who
never uses a lens longer than 90mm, never uses flash, and carries a
camera EVERYWHERE.
Fuji Neopan 100 ACROS film test - your editor again, loading up the very
first roll of this ultra-fine-grain 100 speed mono film (twice as fine a
grain visually as T-Max 100) in a Dynax 4 with 28-80mm. Very quick test,
but fairly technical despite single roll, ultra-fast deadline beating story.
Competition info - a page with full details of four major contests,
internationally open, with deadline suitably far ahead for our readers.
Kodak Gold Awards - a single page with three pix of the current winning
shots. To keep Kodak happy, but they are nice pix too.
Colin Dixon's Darkroom and Large format pages - Colin tests Kodak
Polymax Warm Tone paper, and reviews the Odyssey Scheimpflug movements
calculator for 4 x 5 work. Our darkroom pagesd always have a fine art
emphasis, and Colin is the latest in our run of regular writers (former
darkroom page gurus have been Les McLean and Derek Watkins).
Quest Workshops - our magazines sponsor Colin Westgate's series of photo
workshops, all year round. The deal is very simple. We give Colin loads
of colour pages free of charge because he's a really good organiser and
runs first-rate days, weekend and stuff mainly based on the South Coast
of England. This helps balance our natural bias to Scotland, where we
are based, but doesn't stop most of his long field trips being to...
Scotland (well, it's more photogenic). In exchange Colin is very nice to
our readers, uses some of our writers as course leaders, and gives away
free magazines. And once a year he runs a special day for Minolta Club
members with free admission and print crit etc (we have Duncan McEwan
doing that for Scotland, so it's good to have someone doing it in the
south). And also, he's a long term Minolta user.
That's what you get in a 68-page, sheet feed, 110gsm gloss art printed
varnished cover, saddle stitched mag from the UK. We have just 14.25
pages of advertising in the issue. Our advertisers are: Kodak mono
films, The Flash Centre (Elinchrom, Lumedyne etc) total 1.25 pages,
Hasselblad/Metz, Contax N1 Digital, Minolta Dynax 5, Lysonic inks,
Ffordes camera dealers secondhand 2 page listing (typeset by ourselves
to match the quality of the mag), Calumet Manfrotto tripods, Metro
(professional colour lab), On-Line Papers (St Cuthbert's Mill etc fine
art inkjet stuff), Meopta enlargers, Eagle Eye optics, Iris Audio Visual
(a caption writing program for slide labels for Mac/PC, called
Emblazon), F E Wrightson (a family owned pro lab), Colour Centre (one of
the first colour labs in the UK, celebrating 50 years - we also give
them a full page write up in this issue), the Bureau of Freelance
Photographers (we co-publish with them as they had a prior claim to our
magazine name, and they market subs for us - we give them two pages to
advertise their specialist books and photo courses), Paterson Limited
(this time, inkjet papers, usually darkroom products), Linhof, Solo
Photographic (a specialist secondhand dealer, Leica etc), and Fuji film.
We also give totally free 20 word for sale ads to any subscriber who
wants to use our classified page. We apply to same to Minolta Image -
reader ads are free.
We also operate, in Minolta Image, a gear finder and disposal service
via an associate who used to work for us in the 1980s, and now runs a
Minolta specialist accessories mail order page. He never got any
redundancy or pension etc (he didn't want to move to Scotland with us)
so we let him keep this franchise for life - we give him a free page in
every edition, he has a direct account with Minolta, and anything any
member wants can be obtained. We list all the lenscaps, flash shoe
covers, straps, filters, cards, battery compartments, eyepiece
correction lenses, annual Minolta Japan calendar, independent books on
Minolta cameras etc. Adrian has been with Minolta Club one way or
another since he was a 15-year-old trainee back in 1982.
David Kilpatrick FBIPP AMPA
Publisher and Editor - Freelance Photographer, Master Photographer,
Master Digital Photographer and Minolta Image
from minolta mailing list:
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002
From: David Kilpatrick [email protected]
Subject: Re: Best Photo Magazines (plug for own titles!)
Charles Loeven wrote:
> To make a real short answer to a long reply,
> I was being sarcastic about the reading in a book store although I did read
> all I wanted in last months shutterbug in less than 5 minutes.
> Yes the British mags are much better and I would recommend them over any
> commercial US mag.
> They do sell Brit mags in US bookstores for a premium.
Well, I didn't think otherwise really!
On a serious note, British reference libraries used have reading rooms
which stocked pretty well every single obscure magazine you could
imagine. I learned my photography as a teenager, and then when I was a
trainee newspaper reporter and had mandatory lunch hours ('don't come
back through this door until 2 o'clock!) - mainly at the local reference
library. It also provided me with all the magazines to look at, which
might buy photos from me. I found many of my first good outlets for pix
by reading at the library.
Today, the reference libraries either only have newspapers, or journals
etc requested by local people, and then they have a strict capping on
what they can order. I don't think more than about three libraries in
the whole of the UK order any of our magazines. I have considered
sending them free of charge, but guess what - there is no such thing as
a list of addresses for reference libraries, university libraries, etc.
I've tried many times to obtain one as I think it would be money well
spent, even though the use of these reading rooms has fallen to almost
zero. Thirty years ago there were queues for some magazines, which also
meant you picked up something else while waiting.
I used, in the process, to return to my newspaper office with stories to
follow up because I would often find someone local featured in a hobby
interest magazine, with a story easily turned into a newspaper piece.
So reading in libraries - yes, we could do with more of it. But people
who read the mags while standing in front of the shelves at WH Smith, no
thanks! Many of the mags in the UK are now shrink-wrapped to stop this.
David
From: John Stafford [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Popular Photography?
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002
The Captain at [email protected] wrote
> I didn't know Popular Photography had been around 15 years. Wonder what
> they're doing right?
A month ago I found someone who would take my old Pop Photos. My bunch only
went back to the mid-fifties. I kept all the annuals.
Trivia - there was one issue of Pop Photo that had no cover photograph. It
was also remarkably thin. April, 71 I think. I always wondered what happened
there. (A fellow wrote to me to buy that issue and I sold it for $4. Did I
screw up? ?)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:43:52 -0400
From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video
Reply to: [email protected]
To: Hasselblad Digest
Subject: [HUG] Fwd: Hasselblad Reflections eNews - July Issue
>Subject: Hasselblad Reflections eNews - July Issue
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:48:43 -0400
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>From: "Schleuning, Rich"
>
>Dear Photographer,
>
>The July issue of Hasselblad Reflections eNews is now available. To view
>this issue, simply click on the hot link below - or type/paste the
>location into the address line of your web browser:
>
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>
>This issue features articles from:
> * Ernst Wildi - overview of the Carl Zeiss lens line
> * Tony Corbell - controlling light on location
> * Allan Weitz - the benefits of the RAW file format
> * Ingrid Krampe - interview with Andy Marcus
>You'll also find up-to-date information on Hasselblad promotions,
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From: "mcl" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Photography Magazines
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002
Just got the definitive answer the timing and who bought out who. Decided to
check out Popular Photography. So went to the bookstore and did some
browsing. In this months (Sep 2002) issue they have a lengthy article on
Polarized Filters. The note that the article first appeared in Modern
Photography in 1985. The say they bought out Modern Photography in 1989 and
decided to reprint the article now.
...
From: [email protected] (ArtKramr)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Subject: Re: Photography Magazines
>Subject: Re: Photography Magazines
>From: NickC [email protected]
>Date: 8/25/02
>ArtKramr wrote:
>>Snip
>>
>> >Subject: Re: Photography Magazines
>> >From: "Tony Spadaro" [email protected]
>> >Date: 8/24/02
>>
>> >Modern did not die. It bought Pop and merged the two into one magazine of
>> >almost infinite commercialism.
>> Not true. When Modern folded POP bought the name to keep anyone else from
>> using it. But POP was never a Modern. POP was never more than a photo baby
>> talk mag.. Still is.
>
>Art, when Pop bought Modern, Pop and took on most of the top level
>staff of Modern. Herbert Keppler was writing the same type articles
>for Modern as he does now for Pop. I think M. J. McNamara the tech
>writer was at Modern too. Keppler, while at Modern was not a VP. I
>believe he became a VP when he accepted the post at Pop or soon after
>he accepted the post.
>
>Nick
>> Arthur Kramer
>> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
>> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
After Modern folded Burt was out of work for a while. Pop bought the Modern
name. They had internal problems with staff and hired Burt and Jason at POP.
But Burt couldn't continue the Modern format and content since the POP audience
was too unsophisticated against the very expierenced Modern audience.. I had
been writing "View From Kramer" for Modern and Burt ask me to write "Pro View":
for Pop. I did for a while but the audience for POP was so amateurish it was
no pleasure writing for that audience. But neither Burt nor Jason ever tried
to turn POP into a Modern. Different readership entirely
Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
From: "David Kieltyka" [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: The Death of *Modern Photography*
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002
duh100 [email protected] wrote:
> too many photo magazines are about gear.
> i have gear galore! i like american photo
> and all those other artsy mags now.
There's a good reason for this. Focus on gear and your entire audience is
pretty much on the same playing field. Plus you help serve the marketing
needs of your advertisers. Focus on talent and creativity and you leave a
lot of folks behind. :-)
-Dave-
From russian camera mailing list:
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002
From: Steven Berkowitz [email protected]
Subject: Classic Camera #23 - A MUST HAVE !!!
I highly reccommend you pick up a copy of the
quarterly, Classic Camera #23. The current issue
released in August. It is a bit pricey, $10, but this
issue has a few excellent articles that I think you
will find most interesting.
One has todo with the history of the 75mm F1.5 Zeiss
Biotar, and its Russian "cousin" the 85mm F.2 Jupiter,
and the 85mm F1.5 Helios. Another article features the
story of the Leica M Messucher (the Leica IV). This is
the model I call the "closest call" to the Fed 2
(well...sort of). Finally, an article on an assortment
of Spring Motor Cameras, including the Leningrad,
F-21, Lomo 135M, and an international assortment of
other models.
For those of you who have never seen this magazine
before, get ready!! It's addictive,and worth every
cent. The one problem I have with Classic Camera is
that it is hard to find. Here in the Chicago area I
have only found them at Tower Records & Books. NO
OTHER BOOKSTORE!!
If you can't locate a store where you live, just look
up www.camerabooks.com. They have them at $11.50 plus
shipping.
Believe me....it's worth the hunt
Enjoy,
Steve B
[Ed. note: Mr. Small is a noted expert and author of several books on Zeiss optics etc.]
From russian camera mailing list:
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002
From: Marc James Small [email protected]
Subject: Re: Classic Camera #23 - A MUST HAVE !!!
Steven Berkowitz wrote:
>
>One has todo with the history of the 75mm F1.5 Zeiss
>Biotar, and its Russian "cousin" the 85mm F.2 Jupiter,
>and the 85mm F1.5 Helios. Another article features the
>story of the Leica M Messucher (the Leica IV). This is
>the model I call the "closest call" to the Fed 2
>(well...sort of).
CLASSIC CAMERA is a magazine done with a lot of fancy photography and nifty
printing but huge gaps in its content. The above is a fine example of the
inability of the editorial staff to get their facts straight:
a) The 2/85 Jupiter-9 is not a "cousin" of the 1.5/7.5cm CZJ Biotar; it
is a clone of the 2/8.5cm CZJ Sonnar.
b) The 1.5/7.5cm Biotar is rather distantly related to the 1.5/85 Helios-40.
c) The Leica IV is NOT the "Leica M": the IV was the Prewar product of
one design time inspired by Barnack. The Leica M was the Postwar product
of another design team inspired by Ernst Leitz IV. They are related, but
only distantly.
My advice? Avoid this horrible rag until they get their act together and
bother to check fact before printing fiction.
Marc
[email protected]
From: Lisa Horton [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Popular Photography
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002
ArtKramr wrote:
> The purpose of the magazine is to sell its advertisers products. Period.
Wouldn't it also be correct to say that the purpose of the magazine is
to sell readers eyeballs to advertisers? Aren't the customers the
real product sold to the advertisers, who are the real customers?
Lisa
From: Jeff [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Popular Photography
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002
Melissa,
The $6/year cost of that Popular Photo sub should be a giveaway: Someone is
subsidizing the cost of this magazine, and your sub fee is barely
paying for the postage, if that. A single issue of Lenswork, in contrast,
is $10! Ten dollars, and it's black-and-white, a lot smaller, and there's
not an equipment review in sight. That's probably a truer reflection of the
cost to produce a good magazine.
Product reviews found on the internet are mostly free, but the quality of
unpaid, freelance reviewers varies a heck of a lot, and I'd hesitate to
make decisions based solely on what I read on ePinions.com.
Jeff
...
From: [email protected] (ArtKramr)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: 02 Sep 2002
Subject: Re: Popular Photography
>Subject: Re: Popular Photography
>From: "Kevin Neilson" [email protected]
>Date: 9/2/02
>
>I've been reading Petersen's, I think, because it's at the library. I was
>pretty disappointed with the editors because they captioned a contest photo
>as having an exposure time of 21s. It was of a crowd watching the space
>shuttle, and it was obvious the crowd had not stopped in mid-motion for 21s.
>They didn't correct their error for months until a reader pointed it out.
>That mag is weak.
>
>"Lisa Miller" [email protected] wrote
>>
>> Well, I thought I'd give it a chance too . . .that lasted a year. I think
>> some of the editors are idiots by what they write back to readers in that
>> particular section of the mag. I never found anything useful except
>> something about how to use a polarizer correctly.
>> Lisa
Every month Peterson's used to send notices to all their advertisers and their
ad agencies listing all the plugs that they had published for the advertisers
products for the coming month.Product and page number. And as far as I know
they still do.I was working for the ad agencies at the time and they came to my
desk.
Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
From: [email protected] (Vince)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: 04 Sep 2002
Subject: Re: Popular Photography
"Dallas" [email protected] writes
>If a publisher wanted to produce a magazine devoid of any advertising, I
>think it would be quite possible to make a small profit based purely on the
>sales of issues. This is mostly dependent on the size of the run, but
>possible nevertheless.
>
Well maybe they like to make more than a just "SMALL PROFIT".
I don't know what kind of study you did but there are other cost such as
postage.
For many years I've been getting a free subscription to "Studio Photography"
which does have ads (Not as much as POP Photo), now they want to continue the
"free subscription" but with a $18.95 annual postage fee almost three times the
cost of Pop Photo's $7.95 a year well guess which mag I'm NOT paying for?
Call me spoiled!
Vince
Check it out
www.holvbphoto.com
From: [email protected] (CamArtsMag)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Date: 19 Sep 2002
Subject: Free - CameraArts issue
If you would like a free copy of the October/November 2002 issue call
505-899-8054 m-f 8-5 mountain time before October 1st, 2002.
steve simmons
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002
From: "Q.G. de Bakker" [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HUG] Hasselblad Forum
Philippe Tempel wrote:
> Is this mag/journal still around? If so, then how
> much for US subscription?
Yep. The latest issue (3/2002) was out just before the Photokina. Featuring
the H1 prominently, of course, both on the cover and inside.
US subscriptions are available from Hasselblad USA.
Go to http://www.hasselbladusa.com, select "Gallery", next "Forum", and then
"Subscription". You'll see:
"Forum is a quarterly photo magazine published in English, German, Spanish
and Swedish. If you are interested in subscribing to Forum, and receiving a
print version of this stimulating and informative magazine, please contact
your nearest Hasselblad distributor or representative using the form below.
Your local Hasselblad representative will contact you with information
regarding language of preference, subscription rates, etc.
If your country does not appear in the drop down menu, type the name of your
country in the space provided and the nearest available Hasselblad
representative will contact you. "
[Ed. note: these groups have various publications...]
From Manual SLR Mailing List:
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002
From: Stephen Gandy [email protected]
Subject: Leica, Nikon, Zeiss Societies
Some list members may not be aware of the very excellent collector/user
societies available for Leica, Nikon, and Zeiss. All offer quality
quarterly publications, often supplying info which is very difficult to
find anywhere else.
IF Leica, Zeiss, or Nikon collecting is an interest to you, you would do
well to join. the membership dues are very low compared to the value
received. If you are serious about collecting any of these makes, or
simply want to learn their history, JOIN. While based in the US, the
three memberships listed here accept international members.
LHSA Leica Historical Society of America http://www.lhsa.org
Zeiss Historica Society at http://www.zeisshistorica.org/
Nikon Historical Society at http://www.nikonhs.org/
There is no "Exakta Historical Society" but there is the excellent
Exakta mailing list http://members.aol.com/basmpu/index.html
Stephen
From: John [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Newsletter like Fred Picker's
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002
"IdahoSpud" [email protected] wrote:
>Just wondering if anyone has found a newsletter
>like the Fred Picker Zone VI newsletters. Kinda
>miss them...and him.
>
>--the IdahoSpud
Ilford still publishes their Ilfopro newsletter. It's available online
and through the mail. Register at ;
http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/ILFOPRO/default.htm
Regards,
John S. Douglas - Photographer, Webmaster & Computer Tech
Website --- http://www.darkroompro.com
From: [email protected] (John C. Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Newsletter like Fred Picker's
Date: 28 Oct 2002
> What you want then is the newsletter now put out by Fine Art Photo
> Supply out of Rochester.
>
> It looks like Picker's in every way -
I subscribed to this. The current issue arrived within two days. It
is okay, about what I could say for the Zone VI newsletter. If they
avoid Picker's tendency to use the news letter as a forum for his
private pissing contests, I might continue to read it. One caveat,
however--the Fine Arts Photo web site says this costs $9.00 for a
year. Only when you get your receipt from PayPal do you find out that
they tack on a $7.00 "shipping and Handling" charge. So beware: the
cost is $16.00 for a year. I would have appreciated greater candor
from Fine Art Photo.
From topica leica mailing list:
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002
From: "Bob Stack" [email protected]
Subject: Re: LHSA-Users or Collectors? was Re: FS: 50mm Summicron
collapsible-PRICE REDUCED,
Ok Roger, I'll give a try. LHSA membership is slightly less than 2000, of
which 80% reside in the US. Other than that, we have no demographic facts.
What information that does exists is anecdotal. Here are a few "facts":
(1) Viewfinder articles reflect the number and type of submissions from
members, the editor giving direction to this process. The flavor of the
submissions and the reactions of readers to the Viewfinder over the past
several years would indicate a strong and growing interest in photography
among the membership .
(2) At the Portland Annual Meeting this October, there were about as many
tables on Saturday displaying member photographs as there were tables at the
Sunday swap meet.
(3) The main speakers at the last two annual meetings were Jimmy Marshall
and Ted Grant. Both are great Leica photographers and were received with
great enthusiasm by the attendees. The workshops oriented to collecting,
historical research, and photography all were fully attended.
(4) It appears that a large (but not known percentage) of new members are
joining as the direct result of receiving an application when purchasing a
new piece of gear from their US Leica dealer. It also appears that many who
join with a single interest often develop other interests through their
association with LHSA.
(5). The composition of the Board reflects a wide range of interests Leica.
It seems that all Board members enjoy photographing with their Leica
equipment, some using cameras and lenses of historical interest. Almost all
Board members are collectors, to some extent. And all have an interest in
Leica history, if not historians themselves.
It is our best estimate that the LHSA membership interests, like that of the
Board, are now widely diverse. The Board's clear intent is to support and
serve historians, collectors and photographers alike, all within a common
LHSA organization.
Bob Stack, Secretary/Treasurer, LHSA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Beamon" [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002
Subject: LHSA-Users or Collectors? was Re: FS: 50mm Summicron
collapsible-PRICE REDUCED,
> On 2 Nov 2002, Nathan Wajsman wrote, at least in part:
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > I am also an LHSA member, so I know that there are users among them. But
> > clearly it is a collector-oriented organization, and many members do
> > baby their equipment, even if they also use it. Anyway, I was using it
> > in a positive way as a selling point, no offense intended...
>
> Don't hold me to this, Nathan, but I'm pretty sure that I heard and
> read, a few years ago, that the LHSA was fairly equally divided,
> nowadays, between users and collectors. No argument, though, that it
> was largely a collector oriented society until fairly recently.
>
> The VIEWFINDER began to reflect this shift by running more articles
> on the use of the equipment. Today the publication seems pretty
> equally divided to me, at least.
>
> It would be nice if a director would chime in and give us the official
> word. They have a good handle on the demographics of the
> organization.
> --
> Roger
> mailto:[email protected]
From: [email protected] (CamArtsMag)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Date: 10 Dec 2002
Subject: View Camera web page
Because of the encouragement I've received here we are beginning to post higher
resolution PDF files on our web page of back articles. We will be adding to
this group weekly for the next several weeks. In addition to back articles we
will be adding articles that do not fit into our magazine so there will be
supplemental material as well. We will also be updating our Classified ads and
post them prior to the issue being released to give all subscribers an equal
chance at getting the items they want. Shortly down the road we will also be
posting special sales and new items from our advertisers on the site as well.
In order to view these files you will need to have Acrobat Reader (you can
download this from our site if needed), and be a subscriber. This area requires
a password and user id which will be on the address label of your Jan/Feb 03
issue. If you want to access this area before getting that issue call us and we
will give them to you.
We have left several free articles on the site as well. These include Getting
Started in Large Format, 4x5 Cameras priced under $1,200.00, The Focal Length
Comparison Chart, and the revirew of the Cooke soft focus lens. We will add
articles here as well. To access these articles you can either enter the
archives contest and have a chance to win either a year's subscription or a
copy of Using the View Camera or you can skip the contest (go to the bottom of
the page) altogether and just get the articles. It has never been a requirement
that you enter the contest to have access to these free articles.
steve simmons
www.viewcamera.com
From: David Kilpatrick [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: UK specialist photo maqs offer
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002
We have launched an offer for Icon Publications Limited photo magazine,
published in Scotland, which will now give subscribers free films on
signing up over Internet.
The films are 35mm, 36 exposure, fresh Kodak Portra 400 UC (high colour
saturation, very fine grain) labelled SAMPLE on their boxes and have
been provided by Kodak for this promotion.
A review PDF file for this film and Supra 400 is included on our page of
freely downloadable samples articles from our magazines:
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/pdfindex.html
These are screen resolution Adobe Acrobat files from the original
magazine pages, which you can view or print.
The magazines are:
Freelance Photographer - intended for the solo professional, semi-pro
and advanced amateur aiming at publication, competition wins, exhibition
and other benchmarks for success
Master Photographer - aimed at the wedding and portrait professional
Master Digital Photographer - companion magazine with the above title,
but due to our approach to digital reviews (double page spread 200
screen repros, etc) now much sought after by digital SLR and high end
prosumer model users, even if not professional
Minolta Image - a high quality quarterly with Club for Minolta owners
The overall entry URL for the subscriptions, offer, etc is:
http://www.freelancephotographer.co.uk/
Best wishes for 2003 from Scotland - now I'm off to the pub tonight to
play a bit of music, sing a few songs and see the New Year in!
David Kilpatrick, Publisher and Editor
From: [email protected] (BBarlow690)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Date: 01 Nov 2002
Subject: Re: Newsletter like Fred Picker's
I subscribe to, and like, View Camera very much, and Steve Simmons is one of
those dedicated guys who's working hard to keep Large Format photography alive
and vital in these days of digital.
I also like Lenswork magazine, and think Brooks Jensen offers a lot each issue
in his editorials, particularly in echoing Fred Picker's best messages, which
were about the nature of art and artistic photography, rather than zones,
tones, and equipment (although those were good, too!). Lenswork is another of
those publications, like View Camera, trying to keep the best of our
photographic passion alive.
I, too, miss Fred's newsletter, and still learn something each time I browse my
back issues. Richard Ritter (by the way, if you need anything fixed or
refurbished, Richard can do it, and do it well) was right -- coming up with
fresh topics and perspectives, and writing it in an entertaining style, was
very difficult for Fred, as it it for any writer. At Zone VI we all edited
Fred's Newsletter drafts, and as many of you can imagine, criticizing Fred's
work to Fred often wasn't the most pleasant of tasks. Nevertheless, he did
share a passion for excellence in his own written work, and he did take
comments to heart.
So, we all owe a debt of gratitude to Steve Simmons, Brooks Jensen, and all
those who endeavor to work in all our behalf on the printed page. Thanks,
guys!!
Bruce Barlow
From leica topica mailing list:
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002
From: Stephen Gandy [email protected]
Subject: Leica, Nikon, Zeiss Societies
Some list members may not be aware of the very excellent collector/user
societies available for Leica, Nikon, and Zeiss. All offer quality
quarterly publications, often supplying info which is very difficult to
find anywhere else.
IF Leica, Zeiss, or Nikon collecting is an interest to you, you would do
well to join. the membership dues are very low compared to the value
received. If you are serious about collecting any of these makes, or
simply want to learn their history, JOIN. While based in the US, the
three memberships listed here accept international members.
LHSA Leica Historical Society of America http://www.lhsa.org
Zeiss Historica Society at http://www.zeisshistorica.org/
Nikon Historical Society at http://www.nikonhs.org/
There is no "Exakta Historical Society" but there is the excellent
Exakta mailing list http://members.aol.com/basmpu/index.html
Stephen
From: [email protected] (J Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Photography, publication, the Web and everything
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003
M C Daily
wrote:
> How much is devoted to photography? What is the quality of the
> photography? Experimental? I agree, "on paper" is the ticket. What is
> the cost, frequency of publication, etc.? Thanks for the info.
I hope I don't have to give a percentage, but a lot of it is photography.
It focuses most on photo and print collectors and galleries and owners and
shows.
Cost is $8US ($10 Canada).
See http://www.artonpaper.com
It has a particular niche, and I find it quite good.
From: Lisa Horton [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Shutterbug Magazine today
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003
Although I used to subscribe, I haven't read Shutterbug Magazine for a
while. I picked up the current issue the other day and was pleasantly
surprised by some changes. First it's a smaller format and all
glossy, no more newsprint pages. Second, the mix of advertisers has
changed. It actually seemed to have fewer ads from the scam outfits
than the popular photo magazine, and far fewer classifieds. However,
the useful ads from smaller manufacturers and vendors of photo gear
have actually increased.
The mix of articles seems similar to the past, but with fewer "fluff"
articles rehashing the same old tired basic tips. I learned a useful
Photoshop tip that was worth the price of the magazine:) Overall the
editorial content seemed targeted primarily to the advanced amateur
and low end or beginning professional. Serious articles with useful
content.
The equipment reviews, well, they're photo magazine reviews with all
that's implied by that designation:) Useful information, but you'll
be more likely to find out about flaws and shortcomings here.
All in all, a pleasant surprise. I think I may subscribe again.
American Photo, on the other hand, featured yet another "cheesecake"
issue, confirming the wisdom of my previous decision to drop that
sub:)
Lisa
From: [email protected] (J Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: LF, Publishing, the Web... (long)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003
Steve Simmons' recent laments and comments persuade me to post a couple
thoughts which I think he might be surprised to learn are shared by many
of us here.
Deep in my heart I am a 'book person'. I have a profound regard for paper
books, high-quality reproductions of art and photography, and it took me a
few years to understand and reconcile the so-called Web (the Internet) and
what it will eventually become as it neccessarily exists simultaneously
with The Book. In my mind, in _inverse order_ of 'value' to me (from zero
value to priceless), there is the rumor of a picture, an article or
lecture about a picture, a review of a picture, a digital version of the
picture, The Book reproduction of a picture, an original print, and the
original media (negative, transparency, etc). I mention that only to show
where the Book is. It is not paramount, but the very beginning of a
tactile facimile of certain (sometimes considerable) personal value (to
me.)
Regarding the appropriation of web images: there are people who do, in
fact, find a diminished digital facsimile of a reproduction to be
adequate, just as there are people who find the book reproduction of an
original photograph to suffice for owning an actual print. Matters of
degree follow the classic proportions of the population as represented by
the Bell Curve. We know this has been a truth throughout history. People
who are happy to just appropriate poorly rendered facimilies are not
likely to purchase the Book, or at least the ratio of appropriation to
purchase is as small as those who buy a book and those who purchase as
many original prints as they see published.
Traditional publications like Steve's magazines and other books always
"point" to the originals. The originals stand as they are regardless of
the technology, so one might expect the creating photographers to be more
vociferious and angry than Steve is about the appropriation of images, but
to date I have neither read nor heard in person the same objections that
Steve raises. I am speaking of experienced photographers who have been
published, not persons who wish to be published. When experienced
photographers do object, it seems to be of a different kind: a lament,
rather, of the inevitable disappointing measure of the Average Man's lack
of critical demand for quality. "They will take anything!". It's like
complaining about the weather - it changes nothing and we don't expect it
to, but it makes us a little happier.
But Steve's complaints are pointed and very angry which I take to be a
measure of misunderstanding, and perhaps the lament of a true Book Person
caught in the acceleration of change. In my mind, in the historical
context, Steve should be enjoying the honor of being smack-dab in the
middle of this so-called publishing revolution. He has certainly earlned
his place. He has persisted long enough to have built a publication which
has bridged two cultures, so to speak. This is a historical 'moment', and
not a brief one. It is possible that traditional publishing's position has
actually been 'fixed' in history and finally elevated by the so-called
digital revolution rather than diminished.
Books and magzines like Steve's, Limited edition paper reproduction and
articles will persist, and for a very long time. They embody a
'collection', an editor's choice, certain context which is unique and
valuable. Even though very soon people will be able aquire a very high
quality reproduction of singular images via the Internet, The Book stands
aside as something special.
Be happy.
From: [email protected] (J Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Congrats View Camera Magazine
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003
[email protected] (Xosni) wrote:
> and the rest of the pooooor world?
A good question. At first glance you would think all you had to do was
take the cover price of an issue and add postage and a little for
handling. And while that is expensive enough, it doesn't always work that
way in this so-called Free Enterprise System. :(
In my (very dated) publishing experience, magazine and book distribution
was practically a mobster racket and the magazine had no control of it.
The so-called Bottom Line was daunting; the publisher of a small magazine
made very little money after the prepress, press, ad-management,
government taxes (two governments!), and distributor took their share.
(And worse for small books where the distributor made more money on each
issue than the author!) Some distribution contracts are nothing but
larceny, forbidding a magazine from distributing it's own publication.
Pitiful? Well, there is the dream that net might eventually obviate the
gangster distributors, but that's a different thread. In the very end, I
think if one wants excellent reproduction _in print form_ it is still
going to be very expensive. It is all about _quality_. Quality is
expensive because it is rare. As a publisher of a small magazine, I'd be
terrified that my end product would be ripped off on a cheap home printer
and then represented as the diminished outcome. But maybe that is where I
err. I know photographers suffered the same anguish when they considered
half-tone reproductions of their silver prints.
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