Index:
Cutting Filter-Costs with Adapters
Filter Price Markups - Yikes!
Leica Photographers on Using Filters (Jim Brick)
Homemade Filters
Multicoating Myths
Protective Filters - To Use or Not to Use
Resolution Tests of Filters
Series Filter Sizes
Solar Eclipse Filter Safety (and sources)
Tricolor Filter Effects (Harris Shutter)
Ultraviolet Filters Vary in UV Absorbed (Tiffen..)
Postings related to Filters
Related Sites:
81A filter notes
About circular vs. linear polarizers (W.J. Markerink)
About Polarizers (W.J. Markerink)
All About Filters (Ken Rockwell) [9/2002]
B&W Filters [3/2002]
Bob Shell's Lens Hoods and Filters - The Basics (beststuff.com) [5/2001]
Choosing a Filter (light measurement hbk)
Color Filters (W.J. Markerink)
Cokin Filters User Page [1/2001]
Cokin X-pro 170mm x 130mm filters [3/19/99]
CRC Filters Reference Info
Filter FAQ
Filters (Photo.net)
Filters Article (Chris Bitmead)
Filters Article (Nelson Tan)
Filter Connection (links to filter mfgers online)
Filter Factor Table
Filter Facts for Nature Photography by Ken Wyatt
Filter List (w. prices)
Filter Q and A
Filter Related Links by Ronald Shu
Filter Shop Closes (posting) [8/2002]
Free Filters Tip! from Jim Franz
French Cokin Filter Gallery Site [7/2001]
Gradual Filters, which ones work best?
Kodak on Filters
Homebrew Infrared Filters
Homemade Infrared #87 filter equiv. using E-6 Film
Hoya Filters site (kenko/tokina)
Hoya multicoated vs coated page [07/2000]
Infrared Filter Data
Medium Format Digest Posts on Filters
Multi-Coating, Why it is worth the extra cost?
Neutral Density Filters (added 10/99)
Observing Eclipses Safely
Photo Filters FAQ
Polarizers and UV filters
Schneider Optics Filters for Still Photography Pages [4/2002]
Soft Focus Filters, which one is the best?
Solar Filter Tips
Swedes nix Cokin filters MTF..
Using Filters for Non-Traditional Light Sources
UV and Polarizer Filter FAQ
Warming Filters, are they all the same?
When NOT to use a UV Filter
Which Filters Do What?
Wide and Wonderful World of Filters
Wratten Filters
Wratten Filter Numbers
I have dozens of filters. But I really mostly use just a polarizer and warming filter (Tiffen #812
or #81A or #81b) for color work. We all have filters we haven't used in years collecting dust.
Be sure you really need those odd-ball filters before you buy them.
Why do so many camera store clerks push the use of a "protective filter"? The answer is that
filters have the highest markups, which is to say the most profits, of anything they can sell
you. Those $15 and $20 filters cost the store circa $1 (see below). The lens protection you
need is usually supplied free by the manufacturers in the form of front and rear lens caps.
Good filters degrade image resolution by approximately 2%. A cheapy non-flat bad filter might degrade
the image quality by 10%. A thumbprint on your filter can reduce contrast by 20%+. I don't like
protective filters
because they accumulate scratches, thumbprints, and dirt which add flare
and reduce contrast in your photos. Look in the used filter bargain box at most camera dealers or
camera shows to see lots of evidence of scratched and dirty "protective filters" in recent use.
Tests of filters show no visible differences on film between the good third party (e.g., Hoya) and the most expensive filters; but the more expensive filters have better brass mounts which don't bind or stick as much... |
Filters can be alarmingly expensive for the highest priced brands. The most costly filters are very flat, with non-binding
brass rings and multicoatings. Fortunately, tests of filters have repeatedly shown that the
results are indistinguishable on film between the good (e.g., Hoya) and the most expensive filters.
So putting a $150 filter on a $2,000 lens, let alone on a $150 zoom, is overkill. You most likely
couldn't tell the difference on film against a $15-$20 Hoya or Tiffen filter or other decent quality
brand. Spend the money on film instead.
I prefer single coated filters over multicoated, which are often harder to keep clean. There are lots
of reasons to believe that multicoated filters don't significantly
improve image contrast and quality over coated filters. The light that bounces off the surface
of the filter, which is carefully setup to look impressive in some ads, wouldn't be
going through the lens or end up on film anyway. Reducing reflections circa 3-5% with
multicoating on the inner filter glass surface isn't likely to reduce contrast by a noticeable
amount over a singly coated filter. You will get much more contrast improvements by investing
in a flare reducing lens hood.
An exception where multi-coated filters might be useful is in night photography
with very high contrasts between lights and black shadows. An even better approach is to avoid
using filters in these situations and use filtering at the printing stage. I have lots of
uncoated glass filters
which also work well. These older filters aren't worth replacing with coated filters for the
amount of times I use them. Keep direct light or sunlight from hitting the uncoated filters, and they'll
probably work just fine for you too.
We will look into some low cost specialty filters you can make very cheaply below.
If you are going to use a lot of filters or turn semi-pro, you
should look into the use of stepping rings. You can use a 77mm filter on a 67mm or 72mm filter
sized zoom or prime lens using the right adapter ring, saving the costs of buying multiple
filters of the same type.
The "organic glass" or resin (i.e., plastic) 3x3" and larger filters such as those by Cokin can be useful. The
quality is usually acceptable, especially for medium format and LF users. The majority of filters
are so specialized you would be lucky to use them a few times a year in general shooting.
I find the graduated neutral
density filters are handy for balancing light levels in landscape photography, as one example.
But see the postings below on issues like color casts of some "neutral grey" Cokin filters
and options for glass based ND filters that work in other holders for pro use.
Many of the postings below relate to specific problems, such as the search for a thin filter
for use on wide angle lenses or alternatives to specialty filters for Hasselblad 93mm bayonet
mount lenses. We also have material on older filter bayonet mounts for TLRs, tables of
light conversion filters, and tips on solutions to various filter related problems. Enjoy!
Filter Price Markups - Yikes!
Photographic filters are the highest markup items in most photography stores:
Photography Filter's Astronomical Markups |
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From: Jack Gurner
Matt,
A tough question. I will tell you that I worked behind That surprised me.
Jack Gurner
See also related markups in photo gear
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In other words, the $15 to $25+ you spend on a name brand filter is
probably ten to twenty times what the filter cost the store. It gets
worse, since I am told the cheapy no-name filters you buy for $10 or less
cost under a quarter ($.25US) each! As we will ask below, how much
optical precision and quality do you expect to get for under a buck?
Or for a quarter? [see notes for price updates].
My point here is that camera stores and the photo-industry have a vested
interest in promoting sales of photographic filters. In many cases, the
store or discounter may make more profits from selling you the filter
than the lens it goes on. Authors of photobooks rely on store sales
and promotion, so they don't want to challenge ''conventional
wisdom''. Photographic magazines are filled with camera store ads
too. So providing an alternative view and detailed understanding is
one goal of this online article.
Actually, my
questions to some top professional photographers suggest that some of
them use protective UV filter usage as an indicator of amateur photographer
status. Many professionals don't use filters unless they need and want the
filter's effects in their photographs. Their ultimate version of
lens protection is called professional insurance!
Haze Filters
Haze filters used to cut haze, when we were using older Kodak color films with ASA ratings
around 10 with older lenses using balsam based adhesives. Today's lenses have UV absorbing glues
so they don't need either UV or haze filters to filter out the UV. Today's films don't need
haze filters to offset their UV and blue response either. So why use them, given they don't
reduce UV or cut through haze?
Haze Filters Don't Cut Haze per Kodak... |
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Surely a haze filter justifies itself by cutting haze? Nope, it doesn't. To quote the gospel according to St. Eastman "Haze or sunlight filters used with color slide films render the scene warmer or less blue, but don't actually penetrate the haze." |
Lens Caps
If you really want lens protection, then a good lens cap is what you
need. The screw-in kind won't pop-off. Metal and plastic lens caps are
better
protection than a thin glass filter in most collisions. Since filters
are also expensive, shouldn't they also be protected from scratches?
Won't scratches on your filters also affect your photography too? So if you
seek lens protection, then a lens cap is the logical and obvious way to get
it.
Metal Lens Hoods
Related forms of protection include lens hoods, especially the metal
kind. As
with the metal lens caps, a metal lens hood can provide a lot of
protection from many sources of potential harm. There is also no debate
at all among professionals about the benefits from using the proper lens
hood on your lens. Lens hoods provide real protection from side-light
which can induce flare and other defects in your photographs.
By proper lens hood, I mean one that won't vignette
the corners of your images by being too small. A lens hood can also be
too big, and let in too much side lighting. For fixed focal length
lenses, the lens hood choice is usually well defined for a given lens or
focal length.
For zooms, you usually have to compromise, as usual, on something that
works best at the wide-angle end while providing some protection at the
other extreme.
An optimal solution can be found in the rather bulky
compendium lens hoods, which are bellows-like and easily extended to
the ideal protective length. Unfortunately, I have found these to be
difficult to use in the field and when frequently switching lenses.
One of the problems with using metal lens hoods is that they rarely fold
conveniently out of the way. The major exception is the built-in lens
hoods on many telephoto lenses. Some metal lens hoods can be dismounted
and remounted "backwards" over the lens when not in use, making them easier
to pack. Bayonet mounts are used on some of the medium format lenses and mounts,
usually on more professionally priced equipment (e.g., Hasselblads).
You can easily make low cost lens hoods which will
cut flare and keep your fingers off the lens, as well as provide some protection
in falls and collisions. That's good, because some manufacturers charge up to $900
for their official lens hoods. You might be surprised at how many lens hoods and lens caps you
can find at the local grocery store (e.g., Pringles chip caps). And those cold beverage holders
of foam rubber given away as promo items make great lens protectors for free too!
Converting Filter Threads to Bayonet Mounts
I found a convenient way to mount and dismount not only filters but
also metal lens hoods. Kalt made a series of quick change rings for 35mm
lens filter threads. For $15, you could convert a slow filter thread mount
into a faster bayonet mount, with an adapter ring for one filter or lens
hood. For $5 per adapter ring, you can add filters and lens hoods to this
system. I like it. Unfortunately, these adapters are now out of stock and
not made anymore. Darn!
HP Marketing and others also sell conversion kits for the Rolleiflex
SL-series cameras and others. These professional medium format lens sized
adapters make it fast and easy to mount filters and hoods onto and off of
your lenses with just a fast twist. As you might expect, the costs are
higher too. Top-of-the-line third party brands like Heliopan and B+W
also offer bayonet adapter options in the larger filter sizes.
The original Rolleiflex TLR and early Hasselblads (500c) have long
offered these convenient bayonet mounted filters and lens hoods options.
As a further example, the Hasselblad 500c and progeny have two lens
bayonet mounts, one inner mount for filters (e.g., B50) and the other outer mount for the lens
hood. This simple approach makes it easy and fast to change filters
without impacting the use of the metal lens hood. After you try this
system out, you will see why I have searched for a similar approach I
could afford for my frequently used 35mm filters (e.g., polarizer).
If you elect to use the amateur or professional slip-on filter systems
such as the Cokin/Minolta or similar brands, you have to mount a treaded
mounting ring in each lens before use. Now you can slide the Cokin filter
holder onto and off of your lenses in a flash. Cokin also makes a set of
add-on lens shading elements which you can stack to a modest depth. One handy
trick for very wide angle lens users is to trim off all but one of the filter
holder slots (usually there are three slots). This trick keeps the filter holder from
vignetting the wide angle lens images, an otherwise common problem.
The pro compendium systems with extending bellows style lens hoods do have
filter holder slots. These slots are usually only for the more expensive professional
brands and styles of filters (e.g., 100mm square filters, vs 82mm ''P''
Cokin or 67 mm ''A'' sized Cokin filters). You can also use gel filters with a cardboard
holder. Sadly, the costs of these gel filters have gone up and they are more subject to scratches
and moisture damage.
Rubber Lens Hoods
Rubber lens hoods are convenient and cheap, but many
photographers believe they provide less collision protection. You already
know that the rubber lens hoods also rot and tear easier than the metal
ones.
UV Filter Protection Uses
However, there are times when I think a clear UV filter makes sense in
protective mode. You may be outdoors, or in a potentially sandy or
muddy-spray environment. If so, then using a UV filter for lens
protection makes sense to me too. Some types of closeup photography
increase your risk of colliding with the subject, again possibly
justifying a protective filter use. If you have a fetish for cleaning
your optics, then it is probably better for you to scratch up your
filter than your lens, at least as far as resale value goes.
Why Not to use a Protective Filter
The argument against using a protective filter is very simple. If you
aren't using a top-quality lens filter, you risk reducing contrast and
causing other defects on your photographs and slides. The theory is that
every air-glass interface scatters light and can potentially reduce
contrast. Filters also offer two surfaces to pickup contrast reducing
dust and fingerprints and other contamination.
Lenses are designed to be used as-is, without adjustments for filter use.
Manufacturers give you a broad hint by providing a lens cap with their
lenses, but not a protective filter.
Inexpensive Filter Faults
You already know from the lead posting above that even the manufacturer's
filters cost only a dollar
or so. The off-brands may cost much less, perhaps a quarter to make. Just
how much optical quality do you think you can buy for a quarter?
Granted, you and I may have to pay $15 for a twenty-five cent filter,
but that over-charge doesn't improve the filter, does it?
These inexpensive filters suffer from a number of faults. It is very
costly and hard to get truly parallel and exact thickness to the glass.
Most filters are not colored glass, but rather a sandwich of filter gel
or colored resin between two pieces of glass. Failure to adequately seal
the filter rim can enable moisture to attack the gel, altering the filter
characteristics. Another eye opener is to compare identical filter type
coloration, not only between brands but even batches. Filters may also
shift coloration over time and with exposure to sunlight.
Another sensitive issue is that many pricey manufacturer's filters aren't
made by the camera manufacturer at all. Just their name goes on it. They
actually get another optical house to make their filters. For example, my
Zenza Bronica 67mm UV filter was made by Asahi Optical Inc. (Pentax).
Surprise!
Why Expensive Filters are Really Expensive
Only the best filters are truly plano-parallel, with exactly parallel
precision ground glass surfaces of identical thickness throughout the
filter. This kind of optical precision costs a lot, and so do these
filters.
The best filters in my opinion are solid glass which has been
batch dyed, although some resin filter designs are also good. My
favorites are the Kodak glass series filters in the larger series VIII
and IX sizes. These older filters are very high quality, but since
series filters are out of favor, the costs are very
reasonable.
Some of the original manufacturer made filters have excellent reputations
(e.g., Nikon, Canon, Rollei, Hasselblad). A few third parties such as B+W
and Heliopan also have excellent reputations among professionals too. The
lower-priced filters with brands such as Tiffen and Hoya also have decent
reputations. At the low end, the relabeled and no-name filters have
optical qualities that reflect their low manufacturing costs (under a
dollar, remember?). You generally get what you pay for!
Series Filter | Filter Adapter Range |
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Series 5 | 28-36mm filter threads |
Series 6 | 31-47mm filter threads |
Series 7 | 44-56mm filter threads |
Series 8 | 51-69mm filter threads |
Series 9 | 62-85mm filter threads |
Series Filters (Series Filter Sizes)
Series filters were originally invented to help solve the problem of many
different sized lens filter threads impact on filter costs. A series VII
filter can be used in a range of adapters for the popular 49mm to 55mm
sized mounts. The series VIII filters range up to 67mm filter thread
lenses handily too. The series IX filters covered the 82mm filter thread
sizes. A variety of smaller series filter sizes covered the older and
slower lenses of the past, but are usually too small for most current SLR
lenses.
A series filter usually consists of a colored glass filter with a metal
rim, but without filter threads. The filter mounted in an adapter ring
that fit the desired filter threads (e.g., 52mm, 67mm) and a retaining
ring to hold the filter in. Unfortunately, this design doesn't work well
on very wide angle lenses, which may vignette with the bulky height of
the adapter plus filter and retaining ring. These series filters were
often of excellent quality, but have given way to threaded filter rings,
often used with a step-up or step-down adapter as appropriate.
A Grain of Salt
The above points need to be taken with a grain of salt, i.e., some
testing in your own photographic situation. If you mainly shoot print
film developed up to 4''x6'' in the local mini-lab, your requirements
will be less stringent than a professional photographer shooting for a food ad
poster. Similarly, if you use high quality filters, you may find that
comparisons of slides or prints, with and without your selected test filter,
show minimal impact of filter quality on your photographs.
Clean Filters Because...
Filters need to be kept very clean. Scratches in filters from poor
cleaning have similar bad effects on contrast as if they were in your
lens coating. Consider that a thumbprint on the lens has been tested (by
Popular Photography Magazine staffers) to cause up to a 20% loss of
contrast! Unless your filters are very clean, you will lose some of the
potential contrast that your lens can deliver. Some cleaning scratches or
a bit of smudge on even the most expensive filter may make it as bad as
any no-name filter in its effects on your photographs!
Protective Filter Effects
Be aware that a UV filter has real uses for cutting
haze and smog effects, especially for distant mountain and similar scenes.
Most UV filters appear transparent upon inspection (and should be
color-free).
The UV filter may tend to reduce the amount of blue registered in some
films, especially at high altitudes, depending on the exact filter curves.
A skylight filter is light pink in color, and therefore reduces blue
light which it absorbs slightly. You may also see these skylight filters
referred to as type 1A or type 1B filters. The skylight filter helps add
''warmth'' to scenes that would otherwise have too much blue
coloration.
Both the UV and skylight filters have filter factors of 1, meaning they
can be used without changing the exposure setting on non-TTL metering
cameras.
Fluorescents and Filter Metering Factors
Naturally, a thru-the-lens metering camera will automatically adjust for
most filter factors. A minor point is that metering systems vary
considerably in their sensitivity to blue light in particular. A CdS cell
may be most sensitive to yellow-green light, while a photodiode may be
more sensitive to red or blue light. In sunlight, you are usually okay, but
beware when using other light sources! I suggest you check to ensure your
meter is reading your filters properly and matching the recommended
absorption or exposure correction factors. In some lighting (e.g.,
fluorescents), some metering systems will be fooled by up to 2 stops or
more!
A non-trivial cost of shifting lens mounts is the cost of buying filters
for your new lens line. Having pentax (49mm) and minolta (55mm) as well
as nikon (52mm) cameras makes me painfully aware of these costs. You risk
vignetting if you use a smaller filter on a larger lens. Most users
therefore opt to buy the largest filter size they need, and use adapter
rings (e.g., 52mm -->55 mm) to share filters between cameras.
View Camera and Non-standard Filter Sizes
Many older lenses use non-standard filter sizes that are hard or
impossible to locate. The simple solution is to break out the glass from
a metal rim filter of the closest next largest size. Now center and glue
the filter ring to the lens. With luck, you have converted your problem
lens to the new filter ring size.
Slip-on Lens Filters
Some older lenses and many inexpensive point and shoot or similar cameras
have no filter rings. Again, the simplest solution is to glue or mount an
appropriate filter ring on the lens. Now you can use standard filter
sets.
Internal or Rear-Mount Filters
It is often impossible to mount conventional filters on certain lenses,
with fisheye lenses being an obvious example. Extreme telephotos of large
filter diameter (e.g., 122mm) may not have filters available at reasonable
prices.
The solution has been to place filters at the rear of these lenses. Some
lenses use a filter mount for a smaller, standard sized (often series)
filter thread mount. Others provide up to half a dozen preselected
filters for commonly used filters in a rotating ring. The alternative
122mm filter thread filters would be perhaps fifty times the cost, but
provide equivalent effect.
A version of this approach can be done with regular filters and the lens
attachments such as fisheye and ultra-wide angle adapters. See fisheye adapter article for details. These
adapters mount on filter ring threads, often using a series VII or VIII
adapter. A standard filter can simply be mounted underneath the adapter,
acting as a rear mounted filter in similar ultra-wide or tele-lenses.
Wide Angle and Zoom Lens Problems
For
larger lenses such as zooms, wide angles, and telephoto lenses, the cost
of filters may be an element worth considering. As an example, Sigma
touts that some of its wide angle lenses use relatively small filter
rings compared to their competition (e.g., 67mm vs. 72mm or even 77mm for
some brands for same focal length and maximum aperture). The cost
differential for a set of a half-dozen new filters in the larger size may
be enough to buy the lens! Similarly, you will usually be unable to
use the built-in lens hoods on many telephotos if you are using a
larger filter with an adapter ring. The result is either more
frustration or more expense, or both.
Actually, it gets much
worse when you have to consider wide angle lenses. Here, you may be
unable to use thicker filters without vignetting the edges of your
photographs. You can't use most step-up rings, as the resulting
thickness will also vignette. You often end up having to use very
large step-up rings (hint: Tiffen makes these) to go from say
52mm--> 67mm in order to avoid vignetting with your wide angle lenses.
Series Filters for Medium Format and Large Filter Lenses
Used series VIII and series IX filters are often available at surprisingly
low cost for 67mm and 82mm sized filters (e.g., $5 and $7 US). I am very
fond of the Kodak series VIII and IX all glass series filters, which have
very high optical quality for their low costs. I also have many series
VII bulk-dyed glass filters of various kinds. Being out of favor, these
filters are often a bargain compared to their resin dyed filter
replacements.
Resin and Gel Filters
Some filters simply can't be made in bulk dyed glass to achieve the
needed filtration curves. So you have to accept dyed gel or resin filters.
Naturally, there are high quality and low quality versions of both gels
and resin based filters.
The colored gelatin or gel is usually poured and pressed flat (to 0.1mm in
some
cases) and then mounted between two pieces of flat glass. A higher quality
filter maker pays particular attention to sealing the filter into its
mount so as to exclude moisture. Gels can also be used directly, whether
as lens filters or in the darkroom. Gels can also be used in larger
sheets to cover lights and strobes for special effects. While the cost is
low to moderate, gels require careful handling or they will get scratched
and dirty quickly.
A resin based filter uses a bulk-dyed resin directly. The very best of
these resin filters offer many advantages (e.g., Singh-Ray) and sometimes
unique filtering characteristics. Higher quality resin filters tend to be
rather expensive. On the plus side, they make possible many forms and
designs of filters, such as graduated color filters, hard or impossible
to get in any other way.
Cokin style Filter Adapters
A logical extension of the gel and resin filter series has been the
development of filter systems by Cokin/Minolta, Kenko, Ambico, and
others. These systems usually have several sizes of filters available,
typically an amateur (Cokin series A) and a professional (Cokin series P)
sized filter. The amateur sized filters might cover up to 67mm lenses,
for example, using a standard lens thread mounting filter adapter. The
larger lenses require the professional series filters (up to perhaps 82mm
lens filter threads). As you might expect, there is a huge jump in
prices for the larger or professional filter series.
Before you spring for the larger and much more expensive professional
sized filters, check to see if you can use the amateur sized filters
first. For example, a 72mm lens thread for a telephoto or zoom lens might
accept a step down ring (72mm to 67mm) and standard amateur filter mounts.
Check for vignetting, both wide open and stopped down. Even if there is
some slight vignetting wide open, there may be none discernible stopped
down a stop or two. Telephoto lenses and zooms work best for this trick.
Unfortunately, for wide angle lenses, you may have to go the other way
(see postings below). A thin adapter ring might be needed to expand from
a 67mm filter thread to a larger 72 or 77 mm filter thread size. The ring
needs to be thin, as you want to avoid vignetting. You need a 72 or 77mm
size filter or adapter to prevent vignetting at the edges of the image.
So you might be forced to use larger and much more expensive professional
filter sizes with wide angle lenses that are close to the system limits.
Some professional filters holders for wide angle lenses forego the
multiple filter holding options to provide a low-profile, non-vignetting
filter holder for single amateur or professional filters.
Most of the standard amateur and professional filter adapters provide for
use
of three or even more filters at once. Besides colored filters, you can
buy up to 130+ filters of various types. Some are matte filters, others
feature rotating prisms, and other unusual special effects are available -
albeit at a sometimes hefty price. One of my favorites is the diffraction
filter, which converts light sources into rainbows of color. Conversely,
I never use the pricey five-prism special effect filter that came with a
group purchase.
Buy Slowly
I suggest that you acquire filters slowly, exploring each
in some depth, rather than spending a lot of dollars on filters that you
may not use often or at all. You also don't need to get every color or
depth of filter in each series, but rather pick and choose to match your
needs and interests. You may also find that using these filter kits in
the field or while traveling is bulky and slow. Many professionals
prefer compendium lens hoods which have built-in gel filter holders
over these filter adapter systems.
Sources for Filters
Another benefit of the buy-slowly philosophy is the chance to find
filters and add them to your collection over time. Many sources such as
EBAY (www.ebay.com) auctions and online dealers (see Yahoo listings) plus
rec.photo.marketplace provide chances to pick up photo filters
inexpensively. Camera shows are another likely place to pick up filters too.
Some discounter catalogs (e.g., Porter's Camera Store) list many filters
at discounted prices for comparison purposes.
Organizing Filter Purchases
Many articles online and off-line, as well as entire books, are devoted
to filter choices. Cokin and Ambico provide guides to their filter
choices and examples of their use. Most filters come with sheets listing
filter types and uses (the better to sell you more of them ;-).
Consequently, we haven't tried to overview all the filters available and
the specialty uses of each.
As you acquire more lenses, you may find it valuable to create a list of
filters available for each lens. Split dedicated filters of that exact
thread from those provided by adapters or filter box kits (e.g., Cokin).
Reviewing such a list may encourage you to try out some unusual lens and
filter combinations.
This same approach may motivate you to purchase adapters for some cameras
(e.g., a B50 to 52mm adapter to let a Hasselblad 500c share my nikon
filters). Conversely, it may highlight the lack of corrective filters
such as a FL-D (fluorescent to daylight) filter for 67mm lenses. You may
also decide to shoot some black and white film, as I did, just for the
fun of seeing what the filter effects will be. This experimental approach
is the best and most fun way to learn how to use your filters, and direct
you in expanding your photographic vision through the use of filters.
David Foy asks me to point out that these prices are dated 15 years ago,
so we have had a 67%+ inflation CPI since then, so double these older costs.
Still, filters are among the highest markup items you can buy. Hence,
filters are
a favorite of aggressive mail order and retailers seeking maximum profits
from your limited photo dollars!
I recently advised a newbie photo buyer who had shopped around carefully
to get the lowest price on a mailorder consumer camera, only to be talked
into adding on $130 for four name brand filters! Phew!! Surely this mail
order firm made far more profit from the filter sale than the camera sale,
right?
Using Smaller Size Filters on Bigger Lenses |
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Conventional wisdom says you can't use smaller size filters on bigger
lenses without vignetting the image corners - but that advice may be
wrong! You may be able to use smaller size filters on larger filter thread
lenses in some applications. Naturally, I am not suggesting you can use a
40.5mm filter on a 72mm filter thread lens. But maybe your 72mm filters
will work on that odd-ball 77mm filter thread telephoto? Mine does, so
maybe yours might work too?
Prime
candidates for testing are telephoto
and zoom lenses, which often have large front filter thread diameters.
Wide angle lenses will rarely work, either as primes or at zoom wide angle
settings. If you seldom use the lens wide open, but generally stop down in
use, you will find smaller filters will often work in this setup. Stopped
down, many normal to long telephoto prime or zoom lenses will work with
somewhat smaller size filters without vignetting. Some telephotos seem to
work well with slightly smaller filters in place, even wide open, without
vignetting. Today's thinner filters, versus the thicker older series
VII/VIII filters, may partly account for this effect. Lenses used in
macro mode will also often work without vignetting.
You will need a step-down ring to go from the large to smaller
setting. For example, a long telephoto zoom has a 77mm filter thread,
while you have 72mm filters on hand. Why not shoot a few test shots with
the 72mm filters in place? You may be pleasantly surprised as I was!
Even if your smaller filter does vignette in your
on-film tests, you may still be able to use it. Simply compose so any
vignetting will not effect the final desired composition. Crop out the
edges to eliminate any vignetting effects on the final print. Slides can
also be duplicated on a zoom slide duplicator to crop out vignetted
corners too.
The savings in weight and cost from being able to use more common or somewhat smaller filters can be substantial. The biggest savings will obviously come from using these tricks on the largest filter sizes, where costs quickly jump out of sight! Say you get a special buy on a 72mm enhancer filter. You may want to use it on a 77mm thread telephoto rather than pay over $100 US for the next size larger filter. You might be surprised to find from a few test shots that the 72mm filter works fine, without vignetting, on the 77mm thread telephoto. My point is that unless you are at least open to test it out, you won't know. You might be missing out on some serious savings. Isn't that worth testing a few shots at both wide open and stopped down apertures? Good Luck! |
You can make a number of serviceable filters relatively inexpensively.
Most books dealing with photo filters will describe some common and easy
to make filters. Here is a brief overview:
Using Small Cheap Filters on the Rear of Big Front Filter Thread Lenses |
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Some lenses use huge filters (to 122mm) or hard to find threads (100mm
for pentax shift lens). Ultrawide angle lenses may not permit use of any
conventional filter at all (e.g., fisheyes).
A possible solution
is to add a filter mount at the rear of the lens. Some folks have used a
conventional filter of the right size, with glass broken out, glued into
place with a (removable) household cement. This mount doesn't need to be
optically exactly centered, since the filters need not be centered in use.
Be sure the rear filter mount with filter in place won't interact or
effect proper use of your camera. Your SLR mirror should be carefully
checked to be sure it won't hit the slightly extended rear lens mount
with a filter in place. On wide angle or retrofocus
design lenses, you may run into vignetting issues in a very few cases.
I know of photographers who report having to use a rear cut-out circle of
filter
gel with side ''ears'' which they taped around the protruding rear lens
element barrel. This trick gives the desired filtering effect without
adding noticeably to the rear lens mount length dimensions.
Now you can use the lens threads of the filter ring mounted at the rear
of the lens to mount other filters of similar size (or use an
adapter if needed). Since older smaller filters (e.g., 40.5mm) are
often very cheap to buy used, you can save hundreds of dollars!
The use of the filter at the rear of the lens results in the same effect as if a much larger and more expensive filter had been used at the front of the lens. |
Light Source | Filter for Tungsten (3200K) | Filter for Daylight (5500K) |
---|---|---|
clear skylight (open shade - 10,000K) | 86 | 85 |
overcast sky (7,000K) | 85B | 81C |
photographic daylight (5500K) | 85B | none |
carbon arc (5500K) | 85B | none |
flashcube (5000K) | 85 | 82A |
blue photolamp (4900K) | 85 | 82A |
clear flash - zirconium (4100K) | 85C | 80D |
two hours after sunrise (3900K) | 81EF | 80C |
two hours before sunrise (3900K) | 81EF | 80C |
clear flash - aluminum (3800K) | 81EF | 80C |
one hour before sunset (3600K) | 81C | 80B |
one hour after sunrise (3600K) | 81C | 80B |
500 watt 3400K photolamp | 81A | 80B |
500 watt 3200K photolamp | none | 80A |
sunrise or sunset (3100K) | 82A | 80A |
100 watt bulb (2900K) | 82B | |
75 watt bulb (2800K) | 80D | |
40 watt bulb (2650K) | 80C |
|
|
Average Color Temp. of natural light | degrees K |
---|---|
midday sunlight alone | 5000K |
midday sunlight plus light from clear blue sky | 5500K |
daylight (sunlight+skylight) before 9 AM | 4800K |
daylight (sunlight+skylight) after 3 PM | 5100K |
daylight slight overcast or air pollution | 5800K |
daylight substantial haze or air pollution | 6000K - 6400K |
daylight complete overcast | 6500K |
skylight from blue sky alone (e.g., cloud obscures sun) | 12,000K - 27,000K |
Filter Tips for Fluorescent Lights and Television Color Correction |
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Fluorescent Lights - CC30M - +2/3rds stop - daylight film |
Fluorescent Lights - CC50R - +1 stop - tungsten film |
Television - CC40R - 1/8th second or more (focal plane) e.g. ektachrome 200 f/4 at 1/8th second |
From: Harold Bean [email protected]
To: Rollei List [email protected]
Subject: Source for Filters & Adapters
Thought I'd suggest to this illustrious and illuminating group another
source for filters and adapters:
The Filter Connection
P.O. Box 155
South Windham, CT 06266
Info: (860) 456-3990
Orders: (800) 882-2832
Fax: (860) 423-2738
I ordered new B&W filters for my Rollei 3.5 and my Rollei 35S at a very
reasonable price. Thought this might interest everyone. Owner is very
knowledgeable and courteous.
Harold
Subject: Re: OEM filters vs. independent manufacturers
From: [email protected] (Robert Monaghan)
Date: 1998/01/04
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.misc
I recall an article from Shutterbug Ads some 4-5 years ago? (possibly
popular photography's SLR column by Keppler, but I doubt that ;-) on this
topic.
Basic summary is that for most of us, it doesn't matter. Factors such as
SMC or multi-coated filters did very little for light transmission (from
95%-97% raised to 98% to 99% in SMC - big deal.
The highest quality filters had *very* optically flat and parallel glass,
but the effects were unlikely to be seen in most slides or photographs.
One caveat is that for some wide angle lenses you need to be aware of
filter thickness. For example, nikon's polarizers and filters were
thinner than typical, so you might vignette slightly with the wrong
thicker filter on a very wide lens. I use nikon hoods too on my
ultrawides for the same reason, but suggest that money saved on filters
might be better spent on hoods and tripods for most of us ;-)
The best filters were probably the batch glass series filters by Kodak,at
least as measured for glass quality, uniformity (all the glass was
colored identically) and for optical flatness (superb). In the larger
series VII, VIII, and IX sizes, these filters are often unpopular -
meaning
very cheap, because they are old and require a bulky mounting ring set.
Some series VIII filters were threaded, and since they exactly fit the
67mm threads on my bronica and kowa medium format cameras, I grab em when
the price is right ;-) The series IX are also huge and cheap, and
optically usually superior to the generic filters of today. The savings
can add up fast if you are buying used versus new filters, and even more
so if they are unpopular or older series filters, despite their higher
quality. Camera shows are a very good way to pick up some inexpensive
used filters for a lot less than new prices...
The point on nikon filters being sold to the camera store for $1 in bulk
is a good one by the previous poster; what do you expect optically for a
buck? But what a great markup ;-) I was surprised to buy a bronica 67mm
UV filter only to open up the package and discover the filter had been
made by Asahi Optical Corp (Pentax) for Bronica and labeled as such. My
bet would be that a lot of relabeling goes on, and that different batches
of the same labeled filters might come from different makers, even for
the top rated names, and so you may be paying a lot more for the name on
the box, not for what is inside ;-)
What perplexes me is why we don't have filter thread to bayonet mount
adapters for filters, since if you have worked with either the hassy or
rolleiflex bayonet mounted filters, you quickly realize how much faster
and easier they are to use and to stack up between use. Even a dual
filter mount, one threaded and the outer being a bayonet mount would be a
god-send to some frequent filter changers and users ;-) Filters are
simply too much of a pain to use with the threaded approach, plus you
need to have filter wrenches (Porter's Camera Store) to unstick 'em ...
Most of today's filters of the colored variety are sandwiches of glass and
colored resin or plastic. This keeps the costs down, but quality and
uniformity vary a lot more. Certain brands (singh ray sp?) are optical
quality resins throughout, better optically but less scratch resistant.
The various minolta/cokin filters and finally the gel filters are useful
adjuncts, but the gel filters have a problem with scratches in heavy use,
and are a pain to use outside of the studio in my experience.
A fun experiment at the next camera show is to compare sale filters side
by side of the same type, the color variations are astounding. p;-) For
some purists, these color variations are a concern, and if you can tell
from your slides which were shot with Canon (bluer/colder) and which with
nikon (redder/warmer) then you may want to be more picky when buying
filters. It isn't enough to buy the same brand, due to different batches
and makers used, so if you are a picky pro - you probably want to buy from
the same tested batch of UV filters, say, so the effects are the same
across your entire canon or nikon line of lenses as the filters are the
same batch - plus however many spares you are likely to need in the
future ;-) Fortunately, I don't have to worry about this level of detail
;-)
An equally important question is which filters do you need and will you
use? this depends on the types of photography you are doing, film you
use, and whether you are a special effects freak. Most of us get too many
filters that we rarely use, but if your costs are low, they might be a
fun way to expand your photography horizons -
enjoy - bob monaghan
A human looking through eyeglasses can SEE when the light source they are
looking toward is producing flare in their glasses. You CANNOT SEE when a
filter is causing flare when photographing with an M camera. R camera yes,
M camera no. The image on the film will exhibit lower contrast, perhaps
washed out, perhaps double image ghosting, and numerous other flare and
bright light source high contrast afflictions, but you will never see it
until AFTER you process the film.
This is why Leica says "don't use any filters when photographing a high
contrast scene or into a light source." "These situations cause micro
flare, macro flare, image ghosting, etc," all via the filter.
All of the surfaces of your lens, especially the Noctilux, are coated to
kill these unwanted side effects. The Noctilux spends most of its life
looking at high contrast such as night scenes, inside rooms with lights on
and deep shadows. Leica has spent millions of R&D money perfecting lens
coatings to transmit as much light as possible without unwanted flare
properties. It takes machines costing millions to put the various coatings
on the different surfaces of your lenses.
And then you want to nullify one of the reasons your lens cost so much, by
putting a flat piece of glass (even good Schott glass) with coatings much
inferior to Leicas, which WILL cause the flare problems that the Leica
lens coatings are designed to prohibit. But with the filter there, it is
too late. The light is already damaged before it reaches the lens. The
poor Noctilux is looking through filter flare, just like your eye looking
through eyeglasses flare. Take the glasses off and the flare goes away.
Take the filter off and the flare goes away.
This is why Leica says:
"Don't use any filters when photographing a high contrast scene or into a
light source." "These situations cause micro flare, macro flare, and image
ghosting."
So those of you that run around and photograph anything and everything
with UV filters on your lenses, are participating in a crap shoot. Point
your camera toward a bright light (like the sun, or bright street light at
night, or bright reflective white shirt, etc...) will have images with
reduced contrast (or worse) due to some level of flare. A naked lens will
ALWAYS produce a better image.
Part 2 tomorrow.
Jim (I didn't start this!) Brick
From Leica Mailing List:
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000
From: Jim Brick [email protected]
Subject: [Leica] part 2
To begin with, I have to tell you that I use filters a lot. My bags have
dozens of filters. Polarizers, ND, split ND, color grad, warming, cooling,
red, green, yellow, high quality glass, high quality resin, you name it, I
probably have it. Except for Cokin filters and UV filters. I don't like
Cokin filters and UV filters have absolutely no use whatsoever.
I use filters when and only when using a filter will ENHANCE my
photographic result.
Wouldn't it be really silly to use a filter when it has the possibility of
DEGRADING my photographic result?
So why would someone use a UV filter on a modern lens, manufactured from
probably 1960ish to present. Certainly not for the UV inhibiting factor.
This question is answered by Zeiss, Leica, (and all other major lens
manufacturers) as they have all of the UV inhibitors built into both the
lens glass itself and the cement between the elements.
The second part of the question is totally up to you. If you cannot sleep
at night worrying about what might happen to your front lens element, put
something over it. I suggest a lens cap. That is what I use. That is what
they are for. When taking photographs, I use no filter unless the filter
will enhance the photograph in some way.
You cannot protect your camera by having a filter on the lens. Dropping or
otherwise banging a camera will damage the camera, not specifically the
very front of the lens. For every 10,000 camera dents, lens dents, RF
misaligned from whacks, other camera-lens mutilations as a result of
dropping, whacking, banging, there might be one damaged front lens element
(damaged without any metal lens housing being damaged as well.) But I can
tell you exactly how to damage your front lens element without hurting the
lens barrel...
If you have a glass filter, any glass filter (UV filters are glass) in
front of your lens and bash the front of the filter, what do you suppose
will happen. Ask Eric Welch. The filter breaks and the shards of glass are
gashed into the front of the lens, ripping big gouges in the lens coating.
Not a pretty sight. Do you think that something hitting the filter hard
enough to break it is going to retract quickly enough to keep the broken
filter glass away from the lens? No. If it breaks the filter, it is going
to jam it right into your front lens element. How close is the filter to
the lens. A millimeter + or -. If something hits the filter and doesn't
break it, well, it won't break or damage your lens either, if the filter
wasn't there. Front lens elements are mostly recessed. A filter sticks
out. This is not rocket science. The BEST protection is to use your head,
use a lens hood, and of course use filters when "appropriate."
I have been a photographer since 1950. I live on the pacific coast of
California. Neither I, nor any of my colleagues (thousands over the past
50 years) have ever damaged a lens element. I have neither seen (other
than the broken filter gouging the lens) nor known of anyone bashing only
their front lens element. The salt air and sea/sand spray from the ocean
winds have never been a concern either. I have spent thousands of hours
along the seashore, photographing waves, rock formations, sunsets,
seascapes, wildlife, etc. I still have and use some of the lenses I had at
Brooks in 1960. They look today like they looked then. Pristine glass. I
breath this air, and it hits my eyeballs constantly. No damage. If sand
starts blowing, squint your eyes and take the lens cap out of your pocket
and put it on the lens. But this is not going to keep sand and dust from
getting into your camera mechanism and lens mechanism. To me, protecting
the workings of my camera and workings of my lens is a much bigger concern
than treating the front, recessed, small piece of glass as some sacred
spot. You can pour water on the front element of your lens. Tip it over
and pour it off. Wipe it dry. But don't do this with any other part of
your camera.
Hasselblad is built in a factory located in an ocean side city. I attended
Brooks Institute of Photography, Santa Barbara CA, and ocean side city. Do
Brooks Students use "protection" filters? No. We were taught to only use a
filter to enhance some aspect of the photograph. Brookie's spend an
inordinate amount of time photographing along the beach, seashore, and in
boats. Where's the damage? There is none.
I live in the same area that Ansel Adams lived. I have spent time with
him, while photographing along the California coast. He was a very nice
person and used lots of filters. But never a UV filter. Not on his view
camera lenses, not on his Hasselblad lenses, not on his Conterex lenses,
and not on his Leica lenses. He used filters ONLY to enhance a photograph.
Quite often a deep red to darken the sky against the white clouds. Quite
often, none.
Why don't Large Format photographers use "protection" filters? A large
view camera on a tripod is far more unstable than a Hasselblad or Leica. I
have seen view camera disasters. Falling forward while on a tripod. What
is leading the fall. The lens. I have never heard of a view camera lens
(the glass) being hurt. Camera standards yes, lenses no. LF photographers
don't use UV filters because they know better. And they have not been sold
a "bill of goods" by the camera stores. Camera stores make a maximum of 5%
profit on camera and lenses. They make up to 200% profit on filters.
I have taught several Leica workshops for a professional camera store in
San Francisco. I was told specifically: "DO NOT TELL THE PARTICIPANTS THAT
THEY SHOULD NOT BUY UV PROTECTION FILTERS." I said "why." And they
answered "because they are a high profit item that adds to the total
profit when we sell a lens." Straight from the horses mouth!
This whole UV protection filter game is a gimmick. UV filters do not
"protect" anything except the store's bottom line.
Modern lens coatings are quite hard. You can clean your lens every day
with a microfiber cloth and never damage the coating. Some lenses before
1960 (specifically some Leica lenses) had soft coatings. This is why you
will sometimes see a Leica lens advertised saying "cleaning marks." These
are old lenses. You cannot damage a modern lens, unless you specifically
try to damage it. Like putting a filter over it and then smashing the
filter.
If you are lackadaisical when driving your car, you can expect to be
involved in fender benders. If you are lackadaisical when handling your
equipment, you can expect to damage something. Usually the finder, film
back, side of the lens (f/stop ring, shutter ring, focus ring), but it
would take a certain talent to zero in on just the front element. In fifty
years, I have yet to see this happen. I've seen many dented cameras and
lenses that won't focus. But no smashed front lens elements. One smashed
filter that resulted in a damaged front lens element.
Someone told me that they knew of someone that bashed the front element of
their lens, so this is why they have a "protection" filter on their lens.
I told them that I know two people that dropped their camera in a lake,
and one in the ocean. The M3 that I personally have is a replacement, by
Wetzlar, for an M3 that tried to swim in a lake. I also know a person that
dropped their camera out of an airplane during an aerial photography
shoot. Does this mean that I should put a flotation jacket on my camera
when near water, or a parachute on my camera when doing aerial
photography? No. There isn't anything that someone, somewhere hasn't done.
Does this mean that you are going to do it? Most likely not.
Use a lens cap when not photographing. Take the lens cap off to take
photographs. Use filters to enhance your photographic result when
possible. When no enhancement is possible, use no filter.
I use filters a lot! But I am very careful of where, when, and why. Do
what Leica says. Don't point a filter at a bright light source or high
contrast, bright scene.
But above all, be true to yourself. If you really feel that having a UV
filter over your lens gives you the piece of mind to not worry about your
lens, then by all means, use the filter. The best quality money can buy.
Just be aware that there are numerous photographic situations that a
filter will cause a marked degradation of image quality and possibly lens
damage. You should be knowledgeable of these situations because any
filter, not just a UV filter, has the potential of causing you grief. Not
using a filter can never cause you grief.
Jim
[Ed. note: Mr. Erwin Puts is a noted Leica lens testing expert and author
of various articles and even a CDROM!...]
From Leica Mailing List:
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000
From: "Erwin Puts" [email protected]
Subject: [Leica] Degradation with filters
I conducted a numberof experiments to see if and under what circumstances
the use of a filter could degrade image quality. In theory, when the
surfaces are perfectly plane, the effect would be very small. Note that
the Apo-Summicron-R 2/180 has a permanent built-in filter in front of the
glass.
Here we have perfectly plane surfaces and the computation of the lens was
done with the filter effect incorporated.
Generally we can expect some stray light and obviously some secondary
reflections. These latter effects I will neglect for the moment. Stray
light and flare around specular highlights are the general degrading
effects when using filters. These effects are stronger in situations with
high overall contrast and strong light sources in the image and when the
lens angle is greater as then the skew rays are more troublesome to
correct.
In a coming issue of LFI there will be a lengthier article with comparison
pictures to show the effect with and without filter.
Here I will keep it short and note that the image degrading effects of
filters do concentrate around bright spots in the image (flare and halo
phenomena) and will be stronger when using lenses of wider aperture and
wider angle of view and when the object has high overall contrast and
intensily bright spots.
On the other hand: a longer telelens at moderate apertures and objects
without bright small highlights in dull or overcast weather will not show
any effects at all.
Provided the filter is really good and multicoated. Really good means
really plane surfaces that are very smooth as any irregularitiesdisturb
the passage of the rays.
Erwin
From Leica Mailing List:
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000
From: "Erwin Puts" [email protected]
Subject: [Leica] Filters part 2
There has been some interest in the effect of filters in degrading the
rendition of very fine details of pictures taken in more normal and not so
critical situations. On the assumption that the filter is really good, the
degrading effect is quite small, but not alway negligeable. The problem
here is that there are so many different circumstances and lenses and
filtes etc, that any attempt at generality would have to fail. Let me give
you personal experience.
I made many test pictures from a street scene on tripod with several
apertures and lighting conditions. In itself a very boring test: take a
picture, add filter take picture, remove filter adjust aperture take
picture etc. Then I looked at the set of pictures and could not see any
difference that would be valid given the statistical variance of the
conditions. Projection tests showed a small drop in the rendition of very
fine detail, but again, small exposure variations could easily account for
this difference too in a number of pictures.
To quantify, but do not see this as the last word on the topic, but as a
intermediate result, I would say that the drop in resolution is less than
10%, so in stead of 77 linepairs/mm, you get 70. Or to use another
comparison: if you overexpose by more than 1/2 stop from the ideal
exposure, the very fine details are gone too.
I have tried quite earnestly to find situations where the degrading effect
could be easily visualized (apart from the conditions mentioned i my
earlier posts). On axis it is almost impossible and in the field you may
see it when using the wider angle lenses.
I keep trying to find a simple setup to visualize the effects in a
repeatable way, but till now I hav not found it.
Theory predicts a degradation, but in practice it is not so easy to see
it.
Shooting obliquely into a strong light source with a filter is easy and
gives the desired proof: flare and secondary images etc. and loss of
definition.
In other situations the effect is much more subtle.
Erwin
Kendall,
If you look at 99.9% of John's Fielders pictures, you will
discover that they are taken within a few minutes of sunrise or
sunset. He does not need to filter out UV light as he relies on the
atmosphere to do the UV filtering. Also, winds that stir up the dirt
are usually nonexistent at dawn or dust.
Please note that all film, particularly pan (B&W) and color
film are very sensitive to blue light. It is not possible to cut off
this sensitivity at 400nm (the limit of human light visibility).
Before you attempt a test of UV type filters, you should be aware of
different filters ability to filter the UV light:
Filter UV Light Absorption UV 22% Sky 1A 45.5% UV 15 81% UV 16 86.5% UV 17 97% Haze 2A Virtually all UV light
[Source: B&H's "The Professional Photo SourceBook", page 360, Tiffen
Filters.]
Based on this table is obvious that a UV and Sky 1A (the most
popular filters for standard lens protection filters less UV light
than most believe they should filter. This is why my standard filter
for all my lenses is the Haze 2A.
I have taken pictures of the same mountain scenes (Colorado
high country--10,000 to 14,000 feet) with and without my Haze 2A and
the difference is very noticeable. The filters effect is less
noticeable when the sun is below 30 degrees to the horizon. Anytime
the sun is below 30 degrees, I refer to this as "magic light" as it is
warmer in tone that high noon as the atmosphere filters a lot of blue
light.
To determine the sun angle for your latitude, try the "Sun
Position Calculator" at: http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~simonw/sunpos/
Hope this helps,
Karl S.
P.S. As John uses lama to haul his photographic equipment around the
mountains, could the weight of an addition filter be the one that
"breaks the lama's back?"
From: [email protected] (Bob Salomon)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Series Filters
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998
[email protected] wrote: > Does anyone have information as to what sizes the various > Series numbers refer to? > > Thanks.
IV = 20.6 mm 4.5 = 25.5 mm V = 30.2 mm 5.5 = 35.9 mm VI = 41.3 mm VII = 50.8 mm 7.5L = 57mm VIII = 63.5mm 8.5/5.5L = 74.8 x 5.6mm 8.5/8mm = 74.8 x 8mm IX = 82.6 mm 93 = 93mm 103 = 103mm 107 = 107 mm 119 = 119mm 125 = 125 mm 138 = 138 mm
Most filters are available in all of these sizes from Heliopan.
[Ed. note: Series VIII and IX filters are used widely on various Bronica
lenses. These filters haven't got threads on their smooth edges. You
mount them in a threaded filter holder that fits the lens filter thread
and a filter series hood or filter retaining ring to hold one or more
filters in place. On some lenses, you can just pop in the filter,
screw in a retaining ring or series VIII lens hood, and there you are.
Other lenses may require a lens filter thread to series VIII or IX
adapter too.
For example, I use a 67mm filter thread to series VIII
holder to hold various Kodak glass series filters, plus a series VIII
retaining ring. Adapters let you mount larger filters on smaller
lenses. Series VII filters were once popular with earlier 35mm SLR users.
Filter quality of older glass series filters is often very good or
better. By standardizing on a given large filter size (series or
threaded), you can use the same filters on multiple lenses - Bronica
medium format, 35mm SLR zoom lenses, or even view camera lenses of
various sizes. Some smaller series mounts use press-on designs, bayonet
mount adapters (for TLRs oftentimes) and other specific approaches that
merit further study.
Why bother? Because you can get great quality used
series filters for 10% of the price of a new glass filter in that size.
Many folks go into price shock when they find a large polarizing
filter for their new 35mm zoom costs more than the zoom. Series VIII and
IX filters offer an out of favor, and therefore low cost, way to get very
high quality optically flat glass filters at low cost. ]
[Ed. note: Thanks to Alex for sharing these tests of filters and impacts on photography...] Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: thanks for note: re: blind filter tests Hi Robert! This is the table I promised. I dropped data on filters geometry, assembling quality, "freedom of movement" and alike which affected the overall ratings. I think a blind filter test would be a most interesting effort too Well, not every German filter got SUPER in the fM test below so the results look quite "objective" for me. Minolta and Hoya suffer most from the test although 160 lpm and medium contrast sounds more than enough to be honest. Best regards, Alex.
Circular Polarizing Filters * fotoMAGAZIN (09/2001) Tested with 105mm lens, 400 lp/mm Model Resolution Contrast Rating B+W MRC Slim 300 lp/mm high SUPER (5) Canon 400 lp/mm high SUPER (5) Cokin P164 300 lp/mm soft NOCH GUT (2) Contax MC 400 lp/mm high SEHR GUT (4) Doerr Danubia useless useless WENIGER GUT (1) Hama HTMC Silver 400 lp/mm high GUT (3) Hama HTMC Wide 400 lp/mm soft SEHR GUT (4) Heliopan SH-PMC Slim 400 lp/mm high SUPER (5) Hoya Pro 1 160 lp/mm soft NOCH GUT (2) Leica 400 lp/mm medium SEHR GUT (4) Minolta II 160 lp/mm medium NOCH GUT (2) Nikon 400 lp/mm medium SUPER (5) Pentax ?? ?? SEHR GUT (4) Rodenstock Jet-Pol 400 lp/mm medium SEHR GUT (4) Soligor 400 lp/mm medium GUT (3) Tiffen 300 lp/mm middle GUT (3) MYTabs ak (2002)
From camera makers mailing list: Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 To: [email protected] From: "Anders Bj�rklund" [email protected] Subject: [Cameramakers] Homemade contrast filters ... I have been using filters printed with a color laserprinter on transparencies for a while. I use them for my regular 6x6 enlarger, but i suppose one could make any size of these filters up to A4 / letter size easily. The thin plastic films would need some kind of support as the size increases i guess. This has not been a poblem for me with 6x6 cm filters.. Magenta and yellow are readily available in the printer, so theres no need for mixing colors. Just make several filters with for example 20%, 40%, 80%, 100% magenta and the same for yellow. Calibrating for different contrast is a matter of experimenting...Related Postings on filters are on this page to speed up downloading of the FILTER FAQ and notes above...
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